Talk:Khaybar Khaybar

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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 27 Sept 2006. The result of the discussion was merge and redirect to Khaybar.

[edit] "Kahane Was Right"

I put in the following in a see also-section:

"Kahane Was Right (This phrase or meme, which alludes to Meir Kahane's extremist views on Palestinians, has been painted in graffiti all over Jerusalem.[1])"

I did so because racist/anti-Semitic chants and slogans exist on both sides of the conflict. And it's equally disgusting when individuals/groups on either side resorts to this very dehumanising display of hatred. The essay Wikipedia:POV pushing states that "It is often necessary to examine a topic from more than one perspective. This is especially so with controversial topics, such as politics, morality, and religion." I thought my inclusion would provide for a more NPOV version, and hopefully also give a better overall picture. --Bergerons 20:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge?

I think this is too narrow a subject for its own article, but I don't know to where it might be merger. Thoughts? Tom Harrison Talk 13:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


Is there an article for "Itabach el yahud" ? Zeq 17:31, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

There is not an article, and google hasn't been helpful. Does it mean 'kill the Jews?' Maybe some of this could be merged to a section on Arabs and anti-Semitism (if it is Arabic) - Slogans or Crowd chants. Tom Harrison Talk 20:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Khaybar may be a good merge destination. Pecher Talk 20:00, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] refs

  • youtube video - US
  • youtube video - London
  • Transcript, CNN SATURDAY NIGHT 10:00 PM EST, July 29, 2006 Saturday, 072901CN.V88 "The battle remains significant for many Muslims. "Khaybar, Khaybar oh Jews, Mohammed's army is coming back," is a well-known Islamic slogan."
  • Kuwaittimes.net says 'zionists' - 'Sahyun'?
  • Palestinkini.info not in English
  • version: "Khaybar Khaybar Ya Sahyun, Hezbollah Qadimun"
  • "Then I heard, from behind me, another slogan taken up by the crowd: “Khaybar, Khaybar, ya Yahud, jaysh Muhammad sawf ya’ud!” (“O Jews of Khaybar, the army of Muhammad is returning!”)" - The New Yorker
  • pdf - "Sayyid Abbas explained that Prophet Muhammad’s army repeated the following slogan when they were storming the gate of Khaybar: “Khaybar, Khaybar ya yahud, jaysh Muhammad qadimun [Khaybar, Khaybar you Jews, the army of Muhammad is coming]”. He added that Hizbullah replaced the anti-Judaism, which was prevalent at the time of the Prophet, with Imam Khumayni’s political ideology of anti-Zionism: “Khaybar, Khaybar ya sahyun, Hizbullah qadimun [Khaybar, Khaybar you Zionists, Hizbullah is coming]”.
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