Talk:Philip I, Landgrave of Hesse

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I read something about his bigamy being nominally justified by Luther because of Philipp's claim that he had three testicles. Does anyone have any scholarly sources for this? 70.20.163.248 02:48, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I couldn't find anything reputable after a bit of searching. It appears that, probably not surprisingly, it was a contentious issue between Protestants and Catholics of the day, and has remained so ever since. So anyone seeking the truth of the matter will probably have to wade through a lot of propaganda from all sides. --Saforrest 17:34, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

There are some issues with the list of children. For example, look at:

  1. Philipp, Count zu Dietz (March 12, 1541 – June 10, 1569).
  2. Philip II of Hesse-Rheinfels (April 22, 1541 – November 20, 1583).
  1. Georg I of Hesse-Darmstadt (10 September 1547 – 7 February 1596).
  2. Philipp Konrad, Count zu Dietz (29 September 1547 – 25 May 1569),

In two separate cases, one child was born a month after the other, from the same woman? I think not.

This site puts the number of kids at a much more reasonable 10. --Saforrest 08:28, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see. He was a bigamist, so the kids were from each of his two wives. I've noted this and sorted them appropriately. --Saforrest 08:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Magnanimous or haughty?

I removed this section:

"Philip was by all contemporary descriptions a highly intelligent and gifted but also particularly haughty and selfish person; the epithet "magnanimous" thus surprises. However, it seems now that this, the translation of der Großmütige, is actually a misinterpretation; while großmütig indeed means "magnanimous" in modern German, in Renaissance German, it appears to have meant "haughty"."

because this is what German wikipedia writes about his nickname: Seinen Beinamen erhielt er von späteren Geschichtsschreibern, weil er in zahlreichen politischen und kriegerischen Auseinandersetzungen tatsächlich großen persönlichen Mut gezeigt hatte. (translation: "He received his nickname from later historians, because he actually showed great personal courage in many political and military conflicts.")

I would like to see some of these contemporary descriptions before I call this man particularly haughty and selfish. Markussep 17:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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