Talk:Philip J. Fry

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Contents 1 Mother 2 Popplers Proceeds 3 More on the name... 4 Spelling of Philip 5 Re: 6 Name Mistake 7 Adding More information 8 Stop it, please 9 Grammar 10 Bender's words 11 Re: Bender's words 12 Disambiguation? 13 Futurama Comics are they Canon? 14 Fry's age 15 Relatives 16 I don't think this is controversial, but... 17 Section Ordering 18 Cleanup 19 addition 20 Paternal vs. Maternal 21 Trivia section 22 Name redirect 23 Injuries 24 Irish? 25 Injuries and Phillip J. Fry I 26 First Line 27 Achievements 28 Why has this been redirected? 29 Tables for Achievements and Injuries 30 tuff 31 Fictional veteran? 32 Appearance 33 ex-wife

[edit] Mother

Since Fry was never married to his grandmother, I don't think it's appropriate to say that his mother is also his daughter-in-law. Furthermore, is it ever established whether his grandmother in "Roswell that Ends Well" is paternal or maternal? -Dave

Well, he yells something like "Hang in there, Dad!" at Enos' testicles, so I'd say paternal. BryanEkers 01:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Popplers Proceeds

The section on the amount of money Fry theoretically could hold from Fishy Joe's sale of 198 billion Popplers seems off. It states that he makes fifty cents per dozen, with Bender, but isn't Leela part of that original partnership? It just seems like this particular "Achievement" is speculation, and non-canon to begin with, and if it's additionally based on a flawed supposition, I question its necessity. - Ben

[edit] More on the name...

Does anyone know what the 'J' stands for? Is it a homage to Homer J Simpson?

Thanks, Trialex 00:04, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

It was revealed in a Simpson's episode that Homer's middle name was Jay. I don't know. Matt Groening likes to add "homages" in his shows. --66.218.28.46 03:06, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

It's a referrence to Bullwinkle J. Moose, Matt Groening has given most of his characters the middle initial 'J'. It isn't explained what the 'J' stands for. There are sources out there.124.243.140.51 13:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling of Philip

His first name has only one L, though the two-L misspelling is fairly common; see [1]. --MIRV 17:15, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I thought it was a double-L, same as Phil Hartman - I'm sure it's mentioned on one of the DVD commentaries that they specifically checked the double/single L thing. Although now I look at it, the Phil Hartman article spells it both ways as well...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.6.196.134 (talk • contribs).

I believe within the series it is spelled both ways, though Philip is more accepted. In Space Pilot 3000, on the screen of the computer Leela is working with at the Cryo(ge)nics lab it says Phillip, but I believe in other places it is spelled Philip. --WillMak050389 18:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:

I will change it.--LordVin1 18:07, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Name Mistake

Oh, by the way . The name was put as "Pannuci's Pizzas", when in fact the name is "Pannuchi's PIZZA", just like in a sentence, you'd use Pizza as plural. E.g - "Come buy our fantastic pizza!".
-- Cherry

[edit] Adding More information

Adding more in depth information about this wonderful "caddilac of men", this "brave audonis", hehe :)

• I added it, 2nd lot to come tommorow! My arms ache >.>

-- Cherry

[edit] Stop it, please

Whoever said Shasta isnt mentioned, DOESNT KNOW FUTURAMA!!!!

"Alright, it's friday night, i've got my 2 litre bottle of shasta (WHICH HE SHOWS) and my ALL-RUSH mix tape"

Do you think he's going to have a 1 litre 1 week, then another another week? Obviously if he says "it's like any other friday night" then it's a routine. PLEASE ask or justify here before removing info!

PLEASE post on the discussion before you remove it, it gets REALLY annoying.

[edit] Grammar

I'll be editing some of the grammar in the article--mainly adding missing commas and the like. ~Shippy Mandy

=I edited the grammar, and I also clarified a few things. I did add a few small things, but I'm certain that they are correct. --Shippy Mandy 04:48, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bender's words

I recall that Bender said "Of all my friends, you're the only one.", in stead of "Out of all my friends, you're the first." as in the article. Could somebody confirm this?

In the second paragraph it is mentioned that Billy West joked that he fell in love with Katey Segal while recording Futurama. But in the Amason Women in the Mood commentery he says that he fell in love with Lauren Tom, who plays Amy.

Well, in the commentary for "Leela's Homeworld", around the time Leela's parents are first shown on the episode, Billy West did (jokingly) mention falling in love with Katey Segal. A.l.dang 07:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Bender's words

Bender does say "Of all my friends, you're the first", instead of the previously suggested line, but thanks for making me verify it DannyB!! 17:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation?

Should this page not be a disambiguation page between the Philip J. Fry of Earth and the Philip J. Fry of Hovering Squid World 97A? Av 05:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Futurama Comics are they Canon?

Are the events depicted in the comics considered Canon? I think they are, so would it be alright to add information from the comics about Fry here? (See discussion in main topic) Nic tan33 11:09, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fry's age

In the stat block, it currently says that cronologicly, Fry is 26. This is incorrect as he was present for all 1025 years of his life, there was no time travel. I feel there should be a more acruate way to list this. I changed it once and it was reverted. I am hesitant to try to change it again. ZPS102 02:37, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I reverted it because I felt the change you made was actually more confusing. The key point that needs to be made is that while he is chronologically 1025 he is physically only 26 as he did not age while he was in the cryonic freeze. Not mentioning that he still appears as a 26 year old, and acts as such, would be more confusing than helpful. Just my opinion, I guess if everyone disgrees with me then that's cool too. Stardust8212 02:52, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Here is the section I am talking about:

Technically, if Fry was still living today (2006), he would be aged 32; in the year 3000, he would be 1026 with a biological age of 26 due to cryonics. He is voiced by Billy West.

Wouldn't it be reasonable to only discuss Fry's age at the time the show takes place and not his age if the show had never happened? It just seems unnecessary.

Unlike The Simpsons, time passes approximately like normal in the show (or it did for the first three seasons). So it's silly to claim that we know his "actual" age. Depending on the episode you are watching, he is 25, 26, 27 or maybe even 28 - not counting flashbacks. By the time the new season airs, he may well have turned 30. So I would suggest putting 25, which is confirmed on screen as his *biological* age at the time of the pilot episode. -- SamSim 17:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Relatives

Very, very minor point. He's his own grandfather, so surely he's also his own grandson too? And possibly also his own great-great-grandfather, great-great-grandson, and so on ad infinitum. Admittedly the latter point's a bit silly, but I reckon listing him as his own grandson at least might be a little more accurate. Phil Smith 02:03, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I don't think this is controversial, but...

Fry's brother is named Yancy. Billy West voiced the title character in Nickelodeon's cartoon, "Doug." In the show, Doug's middle name was Yancy. I wanted to add this connection to the trivia section, but since there was a warning against content changes, I thought I'd post it here first. I'll add it to the article if no one disputes it (not that I see a reason for it to be disputed) within a few days.

[edit] Section Ordering

Just a quick thought: wouldn't it make more sense to have the love life section after the relationship section as a romantic relationship is a specific type of relationship? Just thought that might flow better, lemme know what you think. Stardust8212 15:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

It's been a month with no objections so I went ahead and changed it. Stardust8212 14:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I think this article needs cleanup. It also needs to be made more encyclopedia-like (I spotted the word 'shit', which isn't too official, I think.

[edit] addition

Briefly had super speed powers after drinking $300 worth of coffee in a short time frame.

I also think the episode where him and Leela rubbed on a special paste that gave superpowers in humans should be considered. I can't recall the exact episode, but they both acquired super-speed, super-strenght and kinetic-impact proff skin and hair. The instructions mentioned the ability to control sea-creatures but this was not the case with Fry.

cheers

--85.186.135.114 20:14, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

The episode is when they become the New Justice Team. It's called Less Than Hero.

[edit] Paternal vs. Maternal

I think we can assume that Fry is his mother's father, not his father's, as his mother is the one with red hair. This page really needs to be cleaned up. Now, it says no content editing. Does that include grammar and all of that? Also, I strongly agree with the anonymous post on the sentence regarding Fry's age. It isn't a very clear sentence and it doesn't really seem to have any real importance to the character past being an interesting bit of trivia. One more thing. I also agree that the Love Life section would be more appropriate if moved beneath the Relationships section. Diewelt 14:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

In the episode "Roswell That Ends Well" Fry yells at Enis' crotch "Everythings going to be alright dad!" which is more substantial evidence and less original research than hair color. I think red hair is a recessive trait anyway. Stardust8212 04:18, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia section

==Trivia==

• He was briefly made sterile because of the F-Ray (see Professor Farnsworth Inventions). This, however, was reversed either (or the F-Ray merely killed all of his present sperm) before or during "Parasites Lost" which is evident both in that episode, when Dr. Zoidberg was seen riding one of his sperm cells, and in "Roswell That Ends Well" two seasons later, implied by his ability to impregnate his grandmother.
• According to Futurama Comics #17, Fry evolved from a fish.
• Billy West, voice-over of Fry, was born April 16th 1952, the same month and day "The Deep South" came on air.
• Fry is one of the many Matt Groening character to have a middle inital of J, most notably Homer J. Simpson, apparently in homage to Bullwinkle J. Moose.

I've removed this entire trivia section as per Wikipedia:Avoid trivia sections in articles. All this information either does not belong here, or could be put elsewhere in the article. Feel free to take bits of this and put it in the article, or delete it. Either way, please comment and state your reasoning, or at least report having done so, and then delete the information used/deleted from this talk page. -- Digital Watches! 05:02, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name redirect

I'm editing the article so that "Fry the Solid" redirects to here. There should be no problems, so enjoy the redirection! Totema1 06:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

• Erm, this sounds stupid, but how is this done? :D Totema1 06:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Add the following to the page you want to redirect here

    #REDIRECT Philip_J._Fry

[edit] Injuries

Hasn't Fry lost his hands twice? The first time a t-rex bit them off.

He has, yes. :-)

He casually mentions before the scene changes "I can't wait to get home and try them out"

[edit] Irish?

I can't remember any references to Fry having Irish blood (ie being an Irish-American) in the series. I could have simply forgotten a reference though.

The title "Luck of the Fry-rish" doesn't count as that is just an episode title with a pun in it. Just because "Fry-rish" is based on "Irish" doesn't make Fry Irish.

[edit] Injuries and Phillip J. Fry I

First of all, I added a lot to injuries but I'm not quite sure about the first one of "The Deep South." Would you count that as an injury? Also, I haven't seen most of the fourth season so can somebody fill in any other injuries, please.

Anyway, I was the person that added the "I" to Phillip J. Fry. I'm wondering whether we should change the directing so that Phillip J. Fry I also directs there or even better move Phillip J. Fry to Phillip J. Fry I? There IS a Phillip J. Fry II.

Go Futurama! 09:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I think (but I'm not sure) that the general policy is to put the article at the most commonly used name such as Doctor Zoidberg rather than Doctor John Zoidberg. I think the best course of action is to direct Philip J. Fry I to this article, in case anyone would look under that name. Stardust8212 15:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Done Go Futurama! Sp3000 01:09, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First Line

The first line is incorrect. it has been changed

[edit] Achievements

This probably shouldn't be there , i feel most of it can be integrated into the article. Kingpomba 15:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why has this been redirected?

Why has the article been redirected from "Philip J Fry" (which is the character's NAME!) to "Fry (Futurama)"? I believe it should be moved back, Most other TV characters have an entry unde their full name - for example we have "Marty McFly" rather than "Marty (Back to the Future)".

I agree, it should be "Philip J. Fry", I think the (Futurama) makes it look worse. Does anyone know if there was a discussion on this? --WillMak050389 00:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

There was no discussion. Someone decided to move all the futurama characters based off of something from the Mediation Cabal: Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-12-21_Street_Fighter_character_articles

That was what they quoted in the edit summary though I'm not sure that what applies for Street Fighter always applies for every other set of fictional characters. Stardust8212 00:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Move it back to "Philip J Fry". There is no dispute over the character's name like with the Street Fighter characters, most fans know what Fry's first name is, thus it should be moved back. Same with the other characters (except possibly Bender, who has been given 2 names). HillValleyTelegraph (talk)

I've moved it back, since that seemed to be the opinion. HillValleyTelegraph (talk)

[edit] Tables for Achievements and Injuries

I put these two things into chronological tables to hopefully make it look more neat and organized. I just transferred all the information that was already there. Some may not be appropriate for that section, but I didn't want to remove it without discussion. So yeah. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chickenmonkey (talk • contribs) 23:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] tuff

no mention of how ballsy fry is. zoidberg cut off his arm in a fight, which fry then uses to beat the living hell out of zoidberg.I am Paranoid 03:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fictional veteran?

Fry, Leela, and Bender are fictional veterans, right? I am getting this information from episode 3.02 War is the H-Word. Siyavash 23:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I suppose so. Cherries Jubilee 03:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Appearance

Is an appearance section warranted? I was just listening to the audio commentary of the first episode, and they discuss how Fry's hair was designed so that it would stand stand out in a silhouette and how his clothes are based off of James Dean's outfit in Rebel Without a Cause. There's probably some other part that they could be added in, though. Raistlin11325 18:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

It would be great if you could add info on the character design/developement especially if you could legitimately source it from the audio commentary. Currently the article is much too in-universe. More emphasis needs to be on the character as it is in our universe, not a summary of everything that happened to him in the show. Do it! Stardust8212 23:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ex-wife

It states Leela is Fry's ex-wife in the future. That's not true. In Time Keeps on Slippin, he marries Leela, then divorces one leap-in-time later. When the episode ends, they are in the present. They have not traveled back in time and erased history. How did "future" come up?Dkkicks 03:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it's definitely not the future though part of me wants to say that within the timeline of the show it might be misleading to some to list her as ex-wife in the infobox. Especially since it is never mentioned again outside that episode. Popular opinion may be aginst me on that point though. Perhaps "during time-slip" would be a better qualifier with a link to the episode. Stardust8212 12:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)