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[edit] Non-Western countries
I deleted the reference to the South-East Asian countries (many of) "that gained independence their independence" during this period. Certainly some created new associations (Singapore, Sabah and Sarawak with Malaya) but no others needed to, except Vietnam.
[edit] This article leaves out the most important issue: When will the 1960's generation be mostly retired?
This will depend mostly on the age curve of the sixities generation-- agreeing on when it started and when it really significantly tapered off. Many of us-- who appreciate the contributions of that generation, but are now sick of their intolerant and almost complete control of academia and most of the mass media-- which have become venues for hyper-critical America-hating, paranoid dogmatism and all-around obstructionism-- really want to know.
Sean7phil 20:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Needs content outside of pop culture
There is much outside of pop culture needed to be included, things such as fighting for or against communism by proxy (Cuba missile crisis, Vietnam, Indonesia's anti-communist/anti-Chinese actions, and elsewhere). The rise of business computers from IBM, great expansion of science education at all levels in the USA, mass media expansion through television, and the transister).
It would be nice to see comment about cultural things in other countries than the US too!
[edit] Needs much more content
I have grown fascinated with The Sixties as a cultural revolution and all the turmoil and societal change the occured during this period of time. I came here to get a more encyclopedic look at this fascinating era, and found the article remarkably lacking. Perhaps a seperate article, The Sixties, needs to be created to allow both a rough and dirty approach (this page) of the decade as a span of time, and also another page to show the impressive and cultural changes that took place during this time.
I was not alive during the sixties, so I therefore cannot do the writing myself, but I'm certain someone could do this.
[edit] Resurgence of the sixties in pop culture
During the late 1980's and early 1990's there were many movies made about the sixties and that had references to the sixties. Elements of the sixties could also be seen in the popularity of certain clothes and other retail items (e.g. bell bottoms, peace signs, smiley faces). Someone once told me that pop culture goes in 20 year cycles. The end of the sixties era was actually around 1974. In 1994 another pop culture era was coming to an end, one that borrowed a lot of styles from the sixties. Does anyone know of an article that describes this phenomenon?
== ''' In 1994 another pop culture era was coming to an end, one that borrowed a lot of styles from the sixties. Does anyone know of an article that describes this phenomenon? ' Of course, in 1994 another pop culture era was coming to an end: it was the end of the "Generation-X-era". The "Generation-X-era" was marked by what was called the "grunge movement" (in music, and in the way the youngsters and adolescents dressed); which was represented by the American pop band Nirvana. This era finished whwn the leader of Nirvana, Kurt Cobain, killed himself on April 5 1994. So, that's right: in 1994, another pop culture was coming to an end. And the "grunge" movement was a repetition, in some way -or in most of the ways- of the philosophy and way of living -thinking, music forms, etc- of the sixties. Yes, it was a repetition: as you've said, pop culture goes in 20 year cycles. 20, or maybe 15, or... whatever year cycles. So, it was a repetition of a cycle. ==
[edit] Name change: "The Sixties" vs. "1960s"
It strikes me that the article originally titled "The Sixties" and now renamed here is quite a bit different from a straightforward summary of a decade (as many of the other 1xx0's articles are). Lots of things -- biographical, scientific, historical, etc. -- happened in the "1960s"; a particular subset of cultural change was addressed in "The Sixties", making this article instantly both wildly incomplete and difficult to effectively expand into a more general article. I wonder if we don't need both types of article rather than a simple renaming. Jgm 8 July 2005 22:36 (UTC)
- The only reason I combined the two articles (1960s and The Sixties) was because a merge was called for via the Community Portal. I too noticed a distinct difference between the articles. Revert both articles if you choose. joturner 8 July 2005 22:42 (UTC)
There remains an article on The Seventies that's distinct from the one on the 1970s; consistency suggests that either those should be merged as well, or the '60s ones re-separated. *Dan T.* 23:54, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] US centric?
A fascinating page, but it should be renamed somehow; I'd rather not do it myself, but perhaps 1960s in the United States. Of course, many of the same events were occurring in Europe at the same time. Would be interesting to learn what the European experience at that time was.
Perhaps the different continents should just have subpages off of each decade's page. Then have the main page highlight the more global events such as the Vietnam war, the sexual revolution etc..
On the same page is the way to go. Many history books attempt to give a disjoint history along geographic/regional boundaries. This does little to encourage a worldwide view of each timeframe. These pages for each decade are meant to be a jumping off point/summary of major events/trends and also to facilitate a continuous timeline of all events/things/people mentioned in wiki. We should avoid anything but short one liners for each trend/topic/event to keep the decade list page readable.
- Obviously the comment was ironic, but a lot of the decade pages are very U.S.-centric - the 'Sports figures' sections ludicrously so. I've been going through them decade by decade, adding major sporting figures from other countries. I'm tempted to remove several of the baseball/basketball/ice hockey/American football figures; if other sports had so many entries the lists would be unbearably long, and most of these figures will be unknown outside the U.S./Canada. I'm trying to restrict my additions to world-renowned figures, although I have added a few cricketers who will no doubt be unknown to most people outside the U.K./Commonwealth. On this page, I'm removing Dick Butkus, Ray Nitschke and Gale Sayers as they are not well known enough to have Wikipedia articles. Someone else can always add them back if they feel the need. --Lancevortex 10:31, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)
They probably deserve articles. They are each Hall of Famers and have been listed in requested articles. --Rj 01:25, May 11, 2004 (UTC)
other pages that link to Dick Butkus: Dick Butkus Award Chicago Bears December 9 1942 List of people by name: Bu List of American football players University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
other pages that pages link to Ray Nitschke: List of athletes in movies Green Bay Packers December 29 March 8 1998 1998 in sports List of people by name: Ni User talk:Maveric149/archive 10
other pages that pages link to Gale Sayers: Chicago Bears Running Back May 30 List of people by name: Sa-Sb List of people by name: Sav-Saz#Saye List of famous left-handed people
- Looking back at my post, I should have rephrased what I said about Butkus et al: I didn't mean to imply that they were not famous enough to ever have Wikipedia articles, just that they weren't famous enough for anyone to have bothered writing one yet. I fully concur with you, Rj, that they do deserve articles. That said, I'd still dispute whether they should be on this particular list of sports figures of the 1960s, perhaps with the exception of Butkus, as I assume he is considered one of the best in his field seeing as he has an award named after him. My point was that I believe that only those sporting figures considered among the greatest ever in their field (or who otherwise have achieved great fame or notoriety) should be on these lists, as otherwise they will soon become unmanageably long. It appeared to me that the U.S.-only sports were overrepresented, and so I deleted Butkus et al. The bare fact is that hardly anyone outside of the U.S./Canada will have heard of them. --Lancevortex 14:05, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
[edit] The Beatles
In my opinion, an image of The Beatles in this article would be more relevant than a Woodstock poster. The Beatles were single-handedly the biggest and most influential force on popular music in this century, not just in the UK, but worldwide. The effects of the short duration of their recording career (from 1962 to 1969) are still being felt in almost every genre of music to this day. Does anyone disagree or object to adding an image of The Beatles to this article? --User:kevinsnow 23:49, 11 July 2005
- By all means, if you can find one that isn't copyrighted. --Lancevortex 13:49, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Edits to China section
User 194.46.238.248 added the sentences bolded below to the following paragraph:
- In the People's Republic of China the mid 1960s were also a time of massive upheaval, and the Red Guard rampages of Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution had some superficial resemblances to the student protests in the West. This of course was not true, Mao oversaw mass murder of millions of his countrymen. The Maoist groups that briefly flourished in the West in this period saw in Chinese Communism a more revolutionary, less bureaucratic model of socialism. What they did not see of course was the ruin that Mao brought upon the country. His disastrous policies saw famine kill millions and brought the country to a standstill. Most of them were rapidly disillusioned when Mao welcomed Richard Nixon to China in 1972. People in China, however, saw the Nixon visit as a victory in that they believed the United States would concede that Mao Zedong thought was superior to capitalism (this was the Party stance on the visit in late 1971 and early 1972). The Cuban revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara also became an iconic figure for the student left, although he was in fact an orthodox Communist.
I removed those sentences as being a bit POV and non-encyclopedic, but I thought I'd copy them here in case there's any discussion. GTBacchus 23:34, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Unencyclopedic and largely irrelevent
This struck me as hilariously ridiculous. what kirson writes this?
The 1960s, or The Sexy Sixties, in its most obvious sense refers to the decade between 1960 and 1969, you may not have understood that you poor soul but the expression has taken on a wider meaning over the past twenty years.
You poor soul....???? Who writes these things? Someone should seriously revisit this article about the sixties, since apparently the article includes a lot of unencyclopedic material. For a decade as important as the 60s, this page needs improvement.
SirCollin 11:02 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Is that even a real picture of woodstock? I don't recall a stage like that...:)
[edit] Assassinations
I've asked around and apparently a lot icons famous in the 1960s were assassinated (sometimes in the 1960s) such as JFK, Malcolm X, MLK junior and John Lennon, not to mention a lot of civil rights leaders.
Is this more notable then other time periods? Does it deserve special mention?
--ScWizard 15:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Civil rights movement in 1950s?
Is the statement that the civil rights movement was in earnest in the 50s accurate? I would argue it didn't really gain momentum until the sit-ins in the 1960s. --Keremm 02:14, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 1960-1969 or 1961-1970?
"The 1960s decade refers to the years from 1961 to 1970, inclusive."
"The 1980s decade refers to the years from 1980 to 1989, inclusive."
Now which version is more correct? I'd say the sixties is from 1960 to 1969. The period between 1961 and 1970 would be the 197th decade CE, not the sixties.
– Alensha 寫 词 16:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Decolonisation
Possibly something to be said about the rapid decolonisation in areas of Africa and Asia no longer under European rule?
[edit] People of 1960
Removed vandalism and false names.
[edit] 1960s template
FYI...a 1960s template is in the works which will incorporate the people section. —Viriditas | Talk 01:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] i think this site should be seen by everyone!!!
i think this site should be seen by everyone!!!
[edit] Australian Prime Ministers
How come Jack McEwen is here? He barely lasted one week!
