Talk:1986

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[edit] page layout years

There is a discussion on my talk page on page layout.

For most of the last three hundred years there is inconsistency and duplication between the year in topic paragraph, the "see also" box and what is on the year by topic pages. Prior to 1950 I am pretty convinced we can painlessly (except for sore fingers) delete all of the year in topic paragraphs and ensure that the material goes into a "see also" box, creating such a box where none exists. Post 1950, particularly from the "year in US television" link a lot of material has been added to this paragraph as highlights (sometimes making up most of the page content pointed at).

Personally I think we should still delete the paragraph, keep the box linking to the topic sites and move any particularly important parts of the year in topic paragraph to the main chronological list. This does involve undoing quite a bit of work which someone has done.

Therefore, unlike for prior to 1950 (where I've said no objection= I do it) for post 1950 I won't touch these pages unless a significant number of people agree with the change. (I am also unlikely to get the pre 1950 stuff done before summer unless the service speed improves dramatically).

talk--BozMo 13:48, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Trimming the births

I'd agree with this as a move - looking at the Category:1986 births, there are a lot of people with articles born in this year already, if we were to list all of them then the list would become unwieldy, and dominate the article. Average Earthman 10:22, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Non World Events

TheMidnighters reverted my edit of putting Sir Alex Ferguson's appointment as Manchester United manager. His explanation was that it was a non world event. Well first of all that is false. Manchester United have an estimated 80 million fans around the globe. ^{[citation needed]} Secondly it is no regular hire, he is still the manager of Manchester United 20 years later and he's been the most successful manager in the history of English football. Finally if his hiring isn't a 'world event' then neither is the Chicago Bears defeating the New England Patriots in the Superbowl of January 1986. Is a world event also considered when some serial killer gets convicted in November or December (I can't remember which month it was)? I'm going to put his hiring back up, please respond below if you disagree before reverting again. --Tocino

• Manager of a team that has regularly been the richest football team in the world (Deloitte reports, google for them, I can't be bothered), success in the Champions League, popularity worldwide. I'd say that keeps it. Certainly more of a globally notable event than a very US-only sport such as American Football (how many non-Americans played in the 1986 superbowl?). Average Earthman 12:32, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • The 1986 article is mainly for global political or disastrous events with a few exceptions. For something like a notable hire, trade and other sports events, it can go in 1986 in sport or, for football specifically, 1986 in football (soccer), articles which were made to suit facts like this. I hope you would agree that even though his hiring is a world sporting event, it does not suit the purpose of the main 1986 list. What's the point of having those articles if nobody uses them for what they're made for? I've added the Ferguson hiring to both articles and think that both the hire and the Super Bowl results should be removed from this list. --TM 12:44, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
    • To be fair Steaua Bucuresti winning the European Cup should be deleted if the other sporting news are. I will delete it shortly. Argentina winning the World Cup however that's a world event, so I will leave it be. --Tocino 17:37, 10 July 2006
      • I agree completely with the World Cup results staying, it being one of those exceptions. --TM 01:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)