Talk:Abu Sayyaf
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[edit] Lider ng Abu Sayyaf
Grabe, Jessica Ashmore a.
[edit] Makati, Davao, Gen. Santos (2/14/2005)
Abu Sayyaf na nga ba daw yung may gawa ng mga pagbobomba doon? I think this person is asking whether Abu Sayyaf is really responsible for the bombings in the Philippines. The one liner also suggests that who ever wrote it is not a Tagalog speaking individual. Furthermore, there seem to a hint of sarcasm in the tone of the text.
[edit] Abu
Abu is more commonly translated as father, not bearer.
[edit] Islamist group?
As the article itself states Abu Sayaf has recently moved away from any over-arching goals and instead become primarly an organised crime group. As such (and given the murkiness surrounding the group) is it really possible to state with any degree of certainty that they are an islamist group? Or a separatist group, for that matter. Even terrorist is debatable. Daduzi 22:43, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Incorrect group name translation?
In the Arabic language, سيف sayf means "sword", while سياف sayyāf means "executioner". Is there any reason to think that it's different in the name of the group? AnonMoos 20:41, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- I provided a BBC link that says otherwise, not sure who is right but popular media seems to be the source fo the current translation.--NuclearUmpf 16:28, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sources
I added some sources and removed the tag, if more are needed, please let me know and I will see what I can dig up, sorry for them being all from BBC but they had tons on Abu Sayyaf activities. --NuclearUmpf 16:27, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Unclear
The group was originally not thought to receive funding from any government, but intelligence reports from the United States, Indonesia, and Australia have found intermittent ties to the Indonesian Jemaah Islamiyah terrorist group. This makes it sound like Jemaah Islamiyah is a government. --Descendall 23:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Origin of name
One story is that the group was named for an Afghan who called himself "Abu Sayyaf", who fought against the Soviets in the 80's. These "Abu" names are informal names (Abu-X would mean somebody whose oldest child is called X) or noms-de-guerre, with a few exceptions.
