Talk:Alcohol and cancer

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Thank you.David Justin 16:06, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

1 Definition of 'moderate consumption'
2 Plagiarized Material Notice
3 Fixed Breast Cancer and Ref sections
4 Duffy query
5 Ahlgren query
6 POV
7 Source
8 Source information
9 Important
10 Evem more important
11 The source
12 Source of this entry

[edit] Definition of 'moderate consumption'

It may be helpful to insert a definition of moderate consumption into this article, as defined by the sources from which this article was developed. --Uthbrian (talk) 20:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plagiarized Material Notice

It appears much of this article has been lifted directly from the following address (which is one of the article references):

http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/HealthIssues/1109728149.html TimothyPilgrim 19:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fixed Breast Cancer and Ref sections

Please be careful when adding <ref> tags. Captainj

[edit] Duffy query

Reference: Duffy, S.W., and Sharples, L.D. Alcohol and cancer risk. In: Duffy, J.L., ed. Alcohol and Illness: The Epidemiological Viewpoint. Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press, 1992. pp. 64-127. does not appear to be cited in the article. Anyone know anything about it? Nunquam Dormio 15:37, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

It could be a general reference, or perhaps created when the article was very short. My suggestion is to leave it, it can always serve as an external link if nothing else. CaptainJ ^{(t | c | e)} 16:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

It was referenced but with a typo as Dufy. Now corrected.Nunquam Dormio 14:11, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ahlgren query

"However, some research finds moderate drinking to reduce the risk of this cancer." (Ahlgren, J. D., et al. Epidemiology and risk factors in pancreatic cancer Seminars in Oncology, 1996, 23(2), 241-250.) When I look at the abstract, it says: "Alcohol and coffee consumption have been reported as possible risks in some (but not in most) studies." which is not quite the same thing. Has anyone got access to the full Ahlgren paper and could summarize what it says about alcohol? Nunquam Dormio 14:11, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

In the absence of any response, I've changed this to a paraphrase of what Ahlgren actually said in the abstract. Nunquam Dormio 10:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

LIFE-SAVING INFORMATION It's life-saving information when something as simple as getting enough folic acid can eliminate the effects of alcohol on causing a horrible killer disease.Breast Cancer Survivor 15:26, 1 October 2006 (UTC)— Breast Cancer Survivor (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

[edit] POV

This article isn't confroming to Wikipedia's Neutral point of view policy. I only had to read the first sentence to figure that out. Minipie8 05:18, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

That being "This article does not provide medical advice and none should be inferred." Nunquam Dormio 10:00, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source

Hi Wham- Please note that I created this page on 6-10-05 using Drinking Alcohol and Cancer Risk as the Source. Therefore, it is not spam. Thanks. David Justin 14:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source information

Hi Wham- Please note that I created this page (Alcohol and cancer) on 6-10-05 using Drinking Alcohol and Cancer Risk as the Source. Therefore, it is not spam. Thanks.David Justin 17:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Important

[edit] Evem more important

David Justin / Dr. David J. Hanson, You have been persistently been spam linking to your sites mainly using sock puppets such as those blocked in this case: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/David Justin (2nd).

You claim that the page you created on 6-10-05 is based on http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/HealthIssues/1109728149.html and that entitles you to be credited as the source.

You made seven edits at that time but the page has had nearly 250 contributions from other editors. It seems rather egotistical to be seeking all the credit.

If we examine the page using the Waybackmachine http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/HealthIssues/1109728149.html , we find that at October 22 2005, http://web.archive.org/web/20051022201020/http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/HealthIssues/1109728149.html your page was extremely basic with just one reference.

You appear to have copied the text from Wikipedia into your own page some time around February 07 2007 in an attempt to bolster your claim that your page is the original source.

Did you really think your sleight of hand wouldn’t be found out? It is hardly likely to enhance your reputation as an academic. Wham Bam No Thank You Spam 08:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The source

Hi Wham- I never claimed this article as my own -- no one owns any article on Wikipedia-- nor am I egotistically "seeking all the credit" as you charge. I simply correctly noted the source of the article when I started on 6-10-05.

The history page makes it clear that I had to defend the entry against charges of both original research and of plagiarism. But, of course, I can't plagiarize myself. Thanks.David Justin 00:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source of this entry

Hi Wham- Please note that on 3-5-06, TimothyPilgrim reported that "It appears much of this article has been lifted directly from 'Drinking Alcohol and Cancer Risk.'" That's because it was the source of this Wikipedia entry when I started it on 6-10-05. Thanks.David Justin 01:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

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