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Contents 1 reference to Martin Heidegger's use of Angst? 2 Emo 3 Jungian Angst 4 'Angst' is also a Dutch word 5 Heidegger 6 Angst in latin? 7 swedish 8 dread

[edit] reference to Martin Heidegger's use of Angst?

Shouldn't there be a reference to Martin Heidegger's use of Angst in this article? Jumping from Kierkegaard to alternative rock is moving a bit fast...

I feel like this article should discuss teen-angst more clearly and widely, but I haven't got the words to describe what defines as teen-angst. The only point I can make is that bands that have angsty lyrics like Linkin Park are very popular amongst angsty teens who feel deep unity with what bands like that make. That's only an example, I know it's really subjective.

I thought the exact same thing as I read it, that's why I came to the talk page. I'll change the wording a little to make it more NPOV. Although it was funny... :P

I think we should remove the whole Kierkegaard bit -- at least from the intro. It implies too much of a religious agenda. It might fit in well somewhere down the line, perhaps in a new section labeled something along the lines of "Angst in philosophy." We could also throw Martin Heidegger's references into that section, as well. Grendel 19:51, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Emo

"possibly brought on by the physiological changes of puberty, in "whiney", melancholy music. See emo."

Angst is both the German and Dutch word for fear. [...]

[edit] Jungian Angst

Carl Jung popularized Angst as an anxiety. He tended to describe it as a fear of mortality. When one realizes that he/she can die some of us tend to become concerned.

Teen Angst is nothing more than a concern for survival. Some have Angst all of their lives.

When angst = anxiety, I think it's safe to say we're all angsty at one point or another.

[edit] 'Angst' is also a Dutch word

I had already changed this in this article, but apparently some people won't believe me - a native speaker of Dutch from Antwerp, Belgium - that also in Dutch the word for 'fear' is 'angst' (next to other words such as 'schrik'. ) I will again change this in the article and I will continue to do this in the future. Cheers. Gero.

It's also "anxiety" without most of the vowels. Is that notable? --Damian Yerrick (☎) 01:18, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Since Dutch, English, German and Danish are all of the germanic branch of indo-european languages, it stands to reason that they all have basically the same word for a common emotion. Note also French angoisse, which again obviously has the same roots. 82.32.65.149 16:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

But French doesn't belong to the germanic branch although it belongs to the indo-european languages. Therefore the debate is trivial. --82.82.176.247 16:38, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heidegger

This article definitely needs expanding, as it's laughably short, subjective and is of little use to anyone this way.

I also wholeheartedly agree that Heidegger's "Angst" (the realisation of the inherent purposelessness of existence) should be elaborated upon.

[edit] Angst in latin?

I have heard rumours that "angst" originally has come from the Latin word "inner pain" or something in that direction.

Help?

Reply: OED says it's Germanic in orgin.

Reply: from http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=angst :

angst 1944, from Ger. Angst "neurotic fear, anxiety, guilt, remorse" from O.H.G. angust, from the root of anger (q.v.). George Eliot used it (in Ger.) in 1849, and it was popularized in Eng. by translation of Freud's work, but as a foreign word until 1940s. O.E. had a cognate word, angsumnes "anxiety," but it died out.

Funny you mention Latin origin. In Portuguese there's the word "angústia" (stifling feeling, anxiety, inner pain).

[edit] swedish

The swedish word is "ångest", and is a commonly used word in everyday life. --Striver 10:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC) But isn't it also ultimately derived from lat. angustia/angustiae, straits, difficulties, place where one is pressed? 89.172.18.236 18:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] dread

why the heck is dread redirected to angst, dread should have it's own page.

Then make one?