Talk:Armored cruiser
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[edit] First armored cruiser
- "Armored cruiser General-Admiral (1873)"
- "The first armored cruiser was the British Shannon (1875)."
I think there is a little contradiction--Moroboshi 20:35, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] US-Centrism
Is it really neccesary to have a section about US Armoured Cruisers yet only skim over the Royal Navy, who used them far more extensively - not to mention the German Navy and Japanese Navy, whose Armoured Cruisers are of far more historical importance... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Getztashida 15:05, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Getztashida (talk • contribs) 15:05, 5 December 2006 (UTC).
Not at all. Please feel free to enhance the article.
[edit] Line of Battle
I struggle to see the meaning of this sentence.
"The last armored cruisers were built around 1910, technological developments leading to their replacement in the line of battle by larger, faster and better armed battlecruisers."
Someone obviously has "line of battle" on their minds. Most ships larger than flottila craft used linnear tactics in this era, but to me "the line of battle" is the countries main battlefleet, comprised of battleships but sometimes augmented by aroured cruisers in this era. Its not correct to say armoured cruisers were replaced in the line by battlecruisers, they were replaced by them full stop.203.10.93.254 05:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- According to WP's own entry, the Line of battle is a naval tactic or disposition, which is the term that I am familiar with. Armoured cruisers were retained by all major navies into the First World War, and some even persisted as late as the Second World War. It wasn't an instant change; battlecruisers first showed up in 1908 and were still being used as frontline warships at the Battle of Jutland, by both sides. I would say that the most misleading part of that sentence is its grammar, which I will have a go at tweaking. Emoscopes Talk 06:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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- In whatever sense the term is used the sentence is still incorrect as written. Battlecruisers replaced armoured cruisers in some powers* building programmes*. As you point out the Armoured cruisers remained in the order of battle until the 1920’s, and they fought (in a line) in 1914 and 1916 at least. British I class battlecruisers were retired before the US big ten armoured cruisers for example. If the line of battle is defined as any formation of warship using linear tactics then the Armoured cruisers continued in “the line of battle” till they were withdrawn from service. I doubt that the sentence is drawn from any reputable source. ChrisMCau 21:47, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
