Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Plotkin

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (ESkog)^(Talk) 19:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andrew Plotkin

This article does not cite sources to establish notability. It was tagged [1] but the tag was subsequently removed [2]. A Google search does not reveal much [3]. Beside the Wikipedia entry, an interview to an online zine. This article is nominated for delete as per non-notable and possible fancruft. Tony Bruguier 17:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. I'm willing to quibble about the notability of this or that IF author but Plotkin is undeniably one of the most well-known. In addition to writing several award-winning games that are almost always cited as the best of the genre, he has created GLK, Glulx, andBlorb. He has been interviewed for Computer Games Magazine - a print magazine, not online. Crystallina 17:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and said awards include multiple XYZZYs and first place in the 1995 Interactive Fiction Competition. Crystallina 18:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Not sure how 73,600 hits on "Andrew Plotkin" with quotes "doesn't reveal much". (That's more than Graham Nelson and almost as much as Cliff Johnson.) Included in the first 2 pages of those hits are interviews of him, reviews of his work, and mentions of him as "one of the most renowned authors in the IF community." DenisMoskowitz 20:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, saying "the tag was removed" implies that no additional information was added - award information was also added to the page at the same time. The notability tag can be removed if information is added to show notability. DenisMoskowitz 20:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Notable IF writer, plenty of related precedents: Adam Cadre, Graham Nelson, Emily Short, …. --MarkSweep (call me collect) 05:27, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, made some name himself within the IF scene, also what comes to technical side. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 09:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. He is credited as the developer of several games and formats that themselves have articles due to their notability. --DavidK93 12:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Well-known and influential IF author. ---Vladimir V. Korablin (talk) 22:38, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. ---Vladimir V. Korablin (talk) 22:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above. I recommend that editors of the article add a references section to confirm his notability, including cites like this PC Gamer UK interview [4] and a cite for the awards. --SevereTireDamage 22:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: IF isn't a huge genre anymore, but that doesn't mean this guy isn't notable. Ace of Sevens 01:01, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep (and revise): Little mention is made—either in this discussion or the article—of Zarf's contributions in other media than IF. System's Twilight, for example, was actually pretty popular back in the day; add that to his work on Icehouse and, while no particular other project has had an audience quite as large as ST did, having this page is worthwhile if only to connect these projects together. I think perhaps more emphasis on System's Twilight in particular, and mention of the particular contributions to Icehouse would strengthen this article's justification of its existence. --Jake 00:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Influential and widely known. -Mikepurvis 14:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.