Talk:Battle rifle

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[edit] What a battle rifle is

In my experience, battle rifle nearly always refers to a full-caliber military rifle, and it would seem to be the primary definition if someone came up with a classification scheme for "battle rifles" that consists only of full-caliber rifles. I really think this revision is the most accurate. Are there any authoritative texts that indicate "battle rifle" can/should be used to mean something else? Ergbert 00:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC) edited Ergbert 03:16, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

There are two uses of the term in the lexicon for battle rifle, somewhat less so for 'main battle rifle'. Its POV for the article to take a position on it. There is nothing really authorative either way, because use of the term not standarized, just various sources using it one way or another. Personally, I like 'main battle rifle' for the general use, and 'battle rifle' as a non-technical reference to the higher powered rifles. Trying to be too specific cause problems at the border line of what constitutes a full-power vs intermediate rounds. The BR issue aside, I cannot find a reference for the 'phases' mentioned. Ve3 22:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Also, sry for not seeing your messsage sooner.

It nearly always refers to full-power rifles (AFAIK), though, and thus that's what the article should be primarily about. I don't understand your POV comment, as my edit did not state that either use of the phrase is correct, while yours does. Also, IMO that link was irrelevant -- we don't need a list of random web pages that use "battle rifle" a certain way. Ergbert 05:12, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Pfft... AKs are not battle rifles. The term battle rifle usually applies to long range standard issue infantry rifles that use full power rounds. AKs use higher calibre rounds than M-16s, but the powder content inside each cartridge is lower than a full power rifle round, throwing it into the Assault Rifle Category because of that and the fact that it can be fired fully automatic. AllStarZ 23:47, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

In addition the M43 round produces far lower energies at the muzzle and from the AK it only has an effective range of around 300m. Veritas Panther 23:53, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of the term?

Where exactly has this term originated from? Some are saying its from Halo...I don't think so. In Halo 1 at least, it was more like an SMG. Leedeth 03:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)