Talk:Beans, Beans, the Musical Fruit

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Do we really need this article? Surely it should be merged into beans or something? violet/riga (t) 20:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I simply made the article because of a request. Feel free to merge/delete.

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I've always known it as Beans Beans the Musical Fruit too. violet/riga (t) 20:32, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I think we should keep the article...merging sounds like a really bad idea. But do we know the copyright status on the lyrics? They might actually not be public domain, you know.

I'm going to run some google searches to get a feel for the most common title...I always heard the "wonderful" fruit. Definitely doesn't need "..." in the title unless it's an official title. NickelShoe 21:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Magical [1] 2340

Wonderful [2] 347

Musical [3] 934

It usually has commas...any objections to moving this page to Beans, Beans, the Magical Fruit?

I'm going to go ahead and remove the lyrics. We don't need to post whole songs even if they are public domain. Quoting is one thing, but the whole song is over the top.

NickelShoe 21:33, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I wish the text could be posted Jordskjelv 13:25, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Seconded. It's not a very long verse, after all. Nsayer 20:46, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Because of its length, it should be okay to quote, if we can come up with a source. The problem is, who has any idea on the origin of the song? I've not done any research, and I'm not quite sure where to start. NickelShoe (Talk) 20:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beans, Beans, the Musical Fruit

Wow, three months later and the same Google test gets totally different results, with Musical being way more common. We can move the page to Beans, Beans, the Musical Fruit if you want. NickelShoe (Talk) 03:55, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

That would be great!

JB Waltz

[edit] I think it needs the lyrics

Hello, I've heard quite a few different versions so I think it would be good to make a list.

Beans, beans, good for the heart, the more you eat the more you fart, the more you fart the better you feel, so lets have beans for every meal.

Beans, beans, the magical fruit, the more you eat the more you toot, the more you toot the better you feel, so lets have beans for every meal.

God knows who says toot instead of fart, I have a feeling that it was adapted for TV becouse they thought fart was to rude.

Growing up in NE New Jersey in the 50s, I learned the songs thusly:

Beans, beans, good for the heart, the more you eat the more you fart, the more you fart the better you feel, so eat your beans at every meal.

Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat the more you toot, the more you toot the better you feel, so eat your beans with every meal.

I am curious to where and when other readers learned their versions. 71.125.231.136 13:22, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Toot is fairly common. Especially towards children. The issue with lyrics is whether or not they're copyrighted. If you want to figure that out, be my guest. NickelShoe (Talk) 21:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I've had a quick try had finding if it's copywrited, I can't find it but that doesn't mean it isn't. I found this web site http://www.copyright.gov/records/cohm.html but it doesn't give you the lyrics so I can't see if it's one of the songs listed. --Stripy42 18:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

I think it's possible to work around the absence of evidence of public domain status, by linking to websites that host the lyrics. I've done that; if anyone changes it back, please share why it's not acceptable. Geo.per 03:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Of course it isn't copyrighted, use common sense! If it were copyrighted, the holder of the copyright (whether an individual or an institution) would have issued a statement about it at some point in the past, say, eighty years, and would have become very notorious for doing so. 70.248.201.56 20:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Relevance and sourcing

I realize this is a ubiquitous song for some Americans, particularly from a certain era. But is it really relevant enough to have its own article? What's more, even if a number of editors vote yes here, it still does not have any verifiable sourcing or references from reliable outside publications. I guess what I'm saying is, if there really is a will to include a slightly blue children's song about flatulence in Wikipedia, can those who share it most strongly at least properly source this article? That would make it easier to defend as an article.NYDCSP 00:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The article is highly relevant because so many people heard that song when they were young, and would like to know something about it. Sourcing it to your satisfaction may be completely impossible, the song could have been made up by a cowboy in 1872, and then spread like wildfire across the nation, uncredited. Or maybe a British soldier made it up in the trenches in late 1917, and an American soldier repeated it when he got home. Don't hurt yourself now, trying to find out where it originated or whether it's copyrighted. 70.248.201.56 20:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)