Talk:Body Count
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Ice-T has publicly critisized "rap-metal" saying that it would be best to keep them apart. In the Murder 4 Hire DVD he also makes it clear that Body Count is in no way a Rap group, but a Black Rock group.
They're more of a crossover thrash/punk group then a metalcore band.
They aren't necessarily metal; if anything, they're hardcore and even Ice-T himself said many times at show that "we're the originators of this gangsta-hardcore shit." Their music has more to do with hardcore/thrashcore than anything metal.
- Many use the term "hardcore" to describe all forms of aggressive music, which is what Ice-T was most likely doing, because he calls Body Count a "heavy metal band" on his website and MySpace account. And thrashcore is an extreme style of hardcore punk, not a mix of hardcore punk and thrash metal, which is known as "crossover."
Though he may call his band metal, most bands call their bands metal also but that doesn't make them metal. Look up the history of metal and see what metal is; Limp Bizkit has claimed to be metal but they're no where near metal. Body Count may have said they're metal sometimes, but does that make anything sounding heavy with distorted guitars metal? Hardcore is the closest thing they come to. Their music has more to do with influences from old school hardcore acts rather than heavy metal bands.
[edit] +semi
I have semiprotected this article temporarily as requested on AN/I. Please discuss the edits, and let me know when you all have it worked out so I can light the protection. Thanks. --Improv 19:36, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- Lifted. By current policy, we're discouraged to semiprotect indefinitely. --Improv 14:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Genre confusion
It's no wonder there's confusion about the genre. Ice-T himself is responsible. In its early days, Ice-T was always saying that Body Count were metal and nothing to do with rap. In his book, look at page 99 especially and also page 170. Now, he's trying to claim credit for the whole rap-metal thing; the sticker on the new album talks about Body Count as the pioneers of the genre [or the British sticker does, anyway]. I'm an Ice-T fan and all, but I can't deny that he's trying to have his cake and eat it on this one. Epa101 19:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
P.S. Was the word "thrashcore" even around when Body Count last made an album? Epa101 19:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] will user Isotope23 ever stop vandalising?
will user Isotope23 ever stop vandalising this and the corresponding articles? where are the admins to ban someone like that? --80.134 00:32, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, but why don't you ask the admins yourself to do that? You know exactly why. St. Jimmy 03:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- I left a message on your talk page 80.134, along with a link to the admin noticeboard if you wish to take this there. Vandalism != reverting to the last factually accurate and sourced version of an article.--Isotope23 13:04, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
