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[edit] Zrinyi line

Ivan Asen I of Bulgaria

Ivan Asen II of Bulgaria m Eirene Komnene Angelina, daighter of Theodoros of Epirus

Maria of Bulgaria, m Mitso of Bulgaria

Ivan Asen III of Bulgaria m Eirene Palaiologina, daughter of Emperor Michael VIII

Andronikos Palaiologos Asanes

Eirene Asanina m Emperor John VI Kantakuzenos

Matthaios Asanes Kantakuzenos, co-emperor

Theodoros Palaiologis Kantakuzenos

Eirene Kantakuzina m Djuradj Vukovic Brankovic

Stephen Brankovic, saint

Jovan Brankovic

Marija Brankovic m Ferdinand Frangepan of Modrus

Katalin Frangepan m Nikola Zrinski

Borbala Zrinski m Elek Thurzo de Bethlenfalva

Maria Felizitas de Thurzo-Bethlenfalva m Johann Jakob von Rottal

Johann Anton von Rottal

Eleonore von Rottal m Ferdinand Ernst von Waldstein Wartenberg

Ernst Joseph von Walstein Wartenberg

Frantisek Joseph von Waldstein Wartenberg

Joseph von Walstein Wartenberg

Georg Christian von Waldstein Wartenberg

Maria Antonia von Waldstein Wartenberg m Ferenc Joszef de Kohary de Csabrag and Szitnya

Antonie de Kohary m Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha

August of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha of Kohary m Clementine of France

Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha of Kohary m Marie Louise of Bourbon-Parma

Boris III of Bulgaria m Giovanna of Savoy, daughter of Elena of Montenegro

Simeon II of Bulgaria


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Katalin Frankopan m Nikola Zrinski

Katalin Zrinski m Ferenc Thurzo de Bethlenfalva

Gyorgy Thurzo de Bethlenfalva, Palatin of Hungary

Judith Thurzo-Bethlenfalva m Andreas Jakusith de Orbova

Emerith Jakusith de Orbova senior

Emerich Jakusith de Orbova junior

Albert Ludwig Thavonat von Thavon m Maria Polixena Josefa Jakusith de Orbova

Margaret Maria Theresa Thavonat von Thavon m Andras Joszef de Kohary

Ignaz Joszef de Kohary

Ferenc Joszef de Kohary

Antonie de Kohary

[edit] Montferrat

St Stephen Brankovic m Angelina Arianiti

Maria Brankovic m Boniface IV, Marquess of Montferrat (Bonifatois Palaiologos)

William VIII, Marquess of Montferrat (William Palaiologos) m Anne of Alencon

Margaret of Montferrat (Margarita Palaiologina) m Duke Frederick II Gonzaga

William IX, Duke of Montferrat Gonzaga Mantua

Vincent I, Duke of Mantua

Francis IV, Duke of Mantua

Maria, Duchess of Montferrat m Charles, Duke of Rethel

Eleanor of Mantua, Empress Ferdinand III m Emperor Frdinand III

Eleanor Maria of Austria, Queen of Poland m Charles V, Duke of Lorraine

Leopold, Duke of Lorraine and Duke of Teschen

Emperor Francis I

Maria Carolina of Austria m Ferdinand I of Two Sicilies

Marie Amelie of Two Sicilies m Louis Philip I of France

Clementina of France m August of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha of Kohary

Ferdinand I of Bulgaria

[edit] Count of Tenda line

Tsar Ivan Asen I of Bulgaria

Tsar Ivan Asen II of Bulgaria m Maria of Hungary

Elena of Bulgaria m Emperor Theodoros II of Nicea

Eudokia Laskarina m Guillaume Pierre de Vintimille, Count of Tenda

Ioannes Laskaris, Count of Ventimiglia and Tenda

Guillaume Pierre II of Tenda and Vintimille

daughter m Pietro Balbi, Count of Tenda

Antonios Laskaris, Count of Tenda

Onorato Lascaris, Count of Tenda

Ioannes Antonios Laskaris, Count of Tenda

Anna Laskarina, Countess of Tenda m René de Savoie, Count of Villars

Onorato di Savoia, Marquess of Villars, Count of Tenda

Henriette de Savoie, Marchioness of Villars m Charles de Lorraine, duc de Mayenne

Catherine of Lorraine-Guise m Charles Gonzaga, Duke of Nevers, duke of Mantua

(Charles, Duke of Rethel m Maria, Duchess of Montferrat)

Anna de Gonzaga-Nevers-Mantoue m Prince Edward of the Palatinate and Rhine


(Anne Henriette of Palatinate m Henri Jules de Bourbon-Condé - > Orleans)

Louis III, Duke of Bourbon

Louise Elisabeth de Bourbon-Condé m Louis Armand II, Prince of Conti

Louise Henriette de Bourbon-Conti m Louis Philippe, Duke of Orleans

Louis Philippe Joseph, Duke of Orleans m Louise Marie Adelaide de Bourbon-Penthievre, herself daughter of Louis Jean de Bourbon, Duke of Penthievre and Maria Theresa Felicitas of Este of Modena (she descended from the Gonzague too)

Louis Philippe King of the French m Maria Amalia of the Two Sicilies

Clementine m August

Ferdinand




Benedikte Henriette of Palatinate m John Frederick, Duke of Brunswick-Luneburg

Wilhelmina Amalia of Brunswick-Luneburg m Emperor Joseph I

(Maria Amalia of Austria m Emperor Charles VII Albert -> Maria Elisabeth of Saxony, Duchess of Genua -> Giovanna of Savoy)

Maria Josepha of Austria, queen of Poland m August III

Maria Amalia of Poland m Charles III of Spain

Ferdinand I of Two Sicilies m Maria Carolina of Austria

Marie Amelie m Louis Philip

Clementine m August

Ferdinand


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Maria Amalia m Charles III of Spain

Maria Ludovica of Spain m Emperor Leopold II

Charles of Austria, Duke of Teschen

Maria Teresia of Austria-Teschen m Ferdinand II of Two Sicilies

Maria Pia of Two Sicilies m Robert, Duke of Parma

Marie Louise of Bourbon-Parma m Ferdinand I of Bulgaria

Boris III

Simeon II




Anna Laskarina m Rene de Villars

Madeleine de Savoie-Villars-Tende m Anne, duke of Montmorency, connetable de France

Henri, duc de Montmorency

Charlotte Marguerite de Montmorency m Henri II, Prince de Condé

Louis le grand Condé, and Armand Prince de Conti -> Orleans

[edit] Maria of the First Bulgarian Empire

Tsar Ivan Vladislav of Bulgaria

Troian of Bulgaria

Maria of Bulgaria m Andronikos Doukas

Anna Doukaina m Georgios Palaiologos

Aleksios Doukas Palaiologos

Georgios Komnenodukas Palaiologos

Aleksios Palaiologos m Eirene Dasiotos

Andronikos Doukas Komnenos Palaiologos m Theodora Palaiologina

Emperor Michael VIII m Theodora Doukaina Komnena Palaiologina

Eirene, Tsarina of Bulgaria m Ivan Asen II


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Maria of Bulgaria m Andronikos Doukas

Eirene Doukaina m Emperor Alexius I

Emperor John II m Piroska of Hungary, daughter of Ladislas I of Hungary the saint

Theodora Komnene m Manuel Anemas

daughter m Ioannes Angelos

son Angelos

Ioannes Komnenos Angelos, Duke of Thrakesion

Eudokia Angelina m Ioannes Batatzes

Theodora Doukaina Komnene Palaiologina Batatzaina m Michael VIII

Eirene


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Eirene Doukaina m Alexius I

Theodora Komnene m Konstantinos Angelos

Isaakios Angelos

daughter Angelina m Basileios Batatzes

Isaakios Doukas Batatzes

Ioannes Batatzes m Eudokia Angelina

Theodora, Empress Michael VIII

Eirene



Eirene Doukaina m Alexius I

Theodora Komnene m Konstantinos Angelos

Andronikos Angelos

Emperor Alexius III

Eirene Komnene Angelina m Aleksios Komnenos Palaiologos

Theodora Palaiologina m Andronikos Doukas Komnenos Palaiologos

Emperor Michael VIII m Theodora Doukaina Komnena Palaiologina

Eirene, Tsarina of Bulgaria m Ivan Asen II

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Eirene Doukaina m Alexius I

Emperor John II m Piroska of Hungary

Andronikos Komnenos

Maria Komnene (m Theodoros Dasiotos) m Ioannes Kantakuzenos

Eirene Komnene Kantakuzina m Doukas Palaiologos, descendant of Anna Doukaina's otther son Nikephotris Palaiologos

Aleksios m Eirene Angelina, daughter of Emperor Alexius III

Theodora

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John II m Piroska

Andronikos

Maria m Theodoros Dasiotos (m Ioannes Kantakuzenos)

Eirene Dasiotos m Aleksios Palaiologos -> continues


[edit] Other branches

Babenberg Dukes of Austria descend from Maria's descendants Theodora Komnene, wife of Henry II of Austria; and Theodora Angelina, wife of Leopold VI, Duke of Austria

Maria's descendant Eirene Angelina, wife of Philip of Swabia, progenits three lines fromher daughters: Bohemia, Brabant and Castile. Through them, all Western royalty descends.

Maria's descendant Maria Laskarina, wife of Bela IV of Hungary, progenits a bunch of royalty

Maria's descendant Maria Comnena, queen of Jerusalem, progenited a Cyprus and Ibelin bunch of descendants

Through Palaiologos, also the Montferrat descend in male line


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Maria

Eirene

John II

Andronikos, whose children:

1) Theodora, m Henry II of Austria

2) Maria, m Dasiotos and Kantakuzenos

3) Ioannes, whose daughter is Maria of Jerusalem (mother of Isabella and of Ibelin sons), and elder daughter Theoora m Bethsan which also continues there

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Theodora porphyrogenita Komnene, wife of Konstantinos Angelos:

Andronikos, whose children:

1) Ioannes Angelos, whose daughter Theodora m Leopold VI of Austria

2) Emperor Isaakios Ii Angelos had daughter Eirene, m Philip of Swabia

3) Emperor Alexius III had daughters Eirene and Anna

Anna, whose daughter Maria Laskarina m Bela IV, and whose elder daughter Eirene's granddaughter m count of Tenda and Ventimiglia

Eirene, from whom the Palaiologos, Michael VIII and his siblings descend.

[edit] the Kuni family of Cuman tribe

They were of a Kipchak and Cuman descent, other name Polovchi, from what now is Ukraine and then Old Great Bulgaria, but because Bulgar classification is not known, their relation are unclear, other than these two peoples were separate but lived in same Sarmatian regions


Elisabeth of Kuni's pedigree:

her father is Kuthen of Kuni, khan of Cumans, son of Suthoi of Kuni, khan of Cumans.

and mother is a daughter of Mstislav Jaroslavich of Halych, son of Grand Prince Jaroslav II Izyaslavich.

Her descent is in western royalty, chiefly through her daughter Maria, queen of Sicily

[edit] Viola, Duchess of Silesia

A lady Viola, from Bulgaria, said to be daughter of king Ivan (who? Ivan Asen I???) married Casimir of Silesia, Duke of Opole in c 1200. For example the wife of king Wladislaus the Short is among her descendants, and thus Emperor Sigismund etc.

Name Viola recurs some times in Silesian princesses.

[edit] Montferrat

Palaiologos line, descendants of Bulgaria, in Montferrat:

Jaime I of Aragon m Violanta of Hungary dg Andrew II of Hungary

Jaime II of Majorca m Esclaramunda of Foix

Fernando, prince of Achaea, m Isabelle of Matagriphon, daughter of Isnard de Sabran and Marguerite de Villehardouin, of Achaea

(Guillaume II de Villehardouin m Anna Komnenodoukaina of Kalamata)
(Michael II KD Angelos of Epirus and Aetolia m Theodora Doukaina Petraliphaina)

Jaime III of Majorca m Constance of Aragon

(Alfonso IV of Aragon m Teresa of Urgel)
(Jaime II of Aragon m Blanca of Anjou)
(Peter III of Aragon m Constance of Sicily)

Isabella of Majorca and of Achaea m Ioannes Palaiologos of Montferrat

Theodoros P m Joanna of Bar

Ioannes Jacob of Montferrat m Joanna of Savoy

Bonifatios III m Maria of Rascia

[edit] memo for another thing

Habsburg Palatines of Hungary


Palatine, Archduke Joseph, 1776-1847, third wife M.Dorothea of Wurttemberg

Palatine, Archduke Stephen, 1817-67, only son of second wife, Hermine of Anhalt, unmarried, no leg issue

Palatine, younger half-brother Archduke Joseph, 1833-1905, m Clotilde of Kohary, 1846-1927, daughter of August and Clementine (no Hung names yet to issue)

general, Archduke Joseph August, 1872-1962, m Augusta of Bavaria, dg Leopold (son of regent Luitpold and Augusta of Tscany) and Gisela (dg Emp FJ and Emp Elisabeth) (gave some H names)

Archduke Joseph Francis, 1895-1957 (emperor FJ's great-grandson), m Anna of Saxony, daughter of F A III and Ludovica of Tuscany (their children bear Hungarian ethnic names)

Archduke Joseph Arpad, 1933-, m Maria of Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg

Archduke Joseph, 1960-, m Margaret of Hohenberg

Archduke Joseph 1994-



First Palatine's daughters were Henriette to Belgium and Elisabeth, to Este and to Teschen two marriages

Third Palatine's and Kohary lady's daughters were Dorothea (Dorotya?) to claimant Orleans, and Margaret (Margit?) to Thurn-Taxis. The latter has wide descent: current Prince T-T, Saxony's royals, some Urach duke, some Liechtenstein, and others

the hyp fifth Palatine's (J Francis) one daughter Ilona m Carlow Mecklenburg. current Duke George Borwin is their son.

[edit] legendary branches

Legendarily, Bela I of Hungary could have been son of that wife of his father Vazul who was daughter of Tsar Samuel of Bulgaria

Possibly, Boleslaw II of Poland's mother Jutta of Bohemia descended from Andrew I of Hungary, brother of Bela I.

Miroslawa, wife of Ashot Taronites, was a daughter of Kometopuli family, possibly sister or daughter of Samuel. Taronites issued Dukes of Cyprus, from whom a brood of Komneni: for example, the queen of Jerusalem and wife of Ibelin, and her sister the wife of lord Bethsan.

An ancestress of the Nemanja may have been a daughter of Tsar Gabriel Radomir

These are reasons why Cyprus, Nemanjic, Piast and Arpad dynasties were close to Bulgaria's later tsars, as legendary cadet descendants of original Bulgarian dynasty. Maed 16:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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