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[edit] Episode summaries

I have rewritten all the episode summarys (apart from #6) since they were all copyrighted material from the bbc website. I have done my best to include all the information in the bbc summary and to add anything i can remember. johnSLADE (talk) 12:31, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ye olde tradition

I have a problem with this statement: Article QUOTE " The series is filmed in a more traditional sitcom style than the mockumentary style used by Gervais and Merchant's previous award winning series." Is a single camera show with no laugh track, film-within-a-show, or shows where camera equipment and crew members are visible considered "traditional"?

Yes, more traditional than the office at any rate.

[edit] Episode Order

Ok, on the DVD release Ross Kemp is in the first Episode and the Ben Stiller is in the second, have I missed something? Or are the episodes listed in broadcast order? Thanks. Help plz 09:43, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

The BBC swapped them around, I have added a couple of points to explain this, note that the Christmas repeats were in the correct order, Gervais has expressed his dismay with how the BBC changed the order, but the DVD and repeat orders (and foriegn sales) have fixed this. The Ben Stiller episode, to all intents and purposes, is the second episode.

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Barry from Eastenders needs to be added to the cast list summary thing... if Merchant is there, then he needs to be. They are both in it the same amount.

[edit] Infobox

1. Should Stephen Merchant really be credited as 'Starring' in the show? He is not in the 'main characters' section.

2. Country of origin. Shouldn't this just be UK? If I am wildly misguided, maybe this should be explained in more detail in the article.

3. The number of episodes broadcast remains at 7, while the 1st two series will include more than 12 episodes. Where has this number '12' come from? --anskas 21:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I will now make these changes. Sorry if people haven't had time to comment yet. --anskas 22:21, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Are you havin a laugh? Is he havin a laugh? 131.104.253.228 20:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the part which states the original channel for extras was HBO. There is no HBO channel in the United Kingdom, therefore the original channel must be within the United Kingdom. I believe that it was also broadcast in the UK before the USA also.
I also think that Stephen Merchant is a main character, he apperas in each episode of the second series, and numerous episodes in the first. This amounts to more than a recurring character. His presence is also necessary as the character is central to many of the plotlines. pinster2001
With regards to point 2, the article states that it is an HBO / BBC co-production and therefore the country of origin should be listed as UK / USA. Look at the article for Rome, which is also a co-production of the two companies. In addition IMDB lists the Country as UK / USA. Whether or not the show was aired first in the UK or US is irrelevant, as both companies contributed to the production. I have updated the article as such whilst also mentioning that the 2nd series is scheduled to be broadcast from 14th January in the US. --Richc80 20:44, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eh?

'Andy finds out the critical response When the Whistle Blows are almost entirely negative - bar one, which didn't review it.' This sentence makes no sense.

The exchange between Andy and his agent on the bad reviews was something like "the best one was in The Telegraph", "Why, what did they say?", "They didn't review it". I've edited the episode summary to make it clearer --Steve 06:48, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Episode Summaries

There is a bit of the breathless GCSE coursework about some of the summaries - are these supposed to be summaries or scene-by-scene discriptions? doktorb wordsdeeds 11:08, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

As long as they are verifiable, without original reserach, and neutral there are no further guidelines. --Steve 23:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was No move. Duja 10:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


Extras (TV series)Extras — The latter redirects to the former for some odd reason. Extras is the name of the show, ergo it should be the name of the article about the show. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 19:17, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Add  * '''Support'''  or  * '''Oppose'''  on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.

  • Support - the redirect is illogical and I suspect the show's article is more encyclopaedic and valuable than the respective actors page anyway. -- 212.84.104.89 20:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
  • That was me above, somehow having logged out. Given the change of redirect I now also oppose. -- CountdownCrispy ( ? 16:14, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Extremely strong oppose – I have changed the redirect to go to Extra. Enough said. —anskas 21:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Concur with Anskas --Steve 00:52, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose, per above. SergeantBolt (t,c) 07:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Add any additional comments:

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

[edit] De Niro

While I didn't add him to the list in the first place, I found the article, here, that the speculation may be based upon. It is only speculation, although, I did read somewhere else that Gervais was in a film with De Niro, and was going to put outtakes from that into Extras. --Nick San 11:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

De Niro definately appears in the final episode. I don't have any citations other than I've seen the final episode for myself. -- Jawju 14:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citation for 'Stolen Idea?'?

I'm not so familar with Wiki citation rules, but (from a reader point of view) it would be 'healthy' to be able to cite the details of the "in a recent interview" since I think it should be considered a controversial statement that Gervais stole the idea, and so in need of backing up. --Mortice 21:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Update, just checked citation policy: I think the statement in Wikipedia guideline Wikipedia:Citing_sources#When_adding_material_to_the_biography_of_a_living_person applies that this could be considered negative to Gervais so requires citation - the guideline states "This applies whether the material is in a biography or any other article" --Mortice 23:29, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to remove the "stolen idea" section until a reliable third party citation can be provided for Greg and Ford submitting a script to the BBC AND Gervais having sighted it, or, for example, the court case where they are seeking damages. --Steve 00:04, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hilarious

Someone added this to the article:

"It is important to note that, in real life, the above actors do not, and have not, played the characters in When the Whistle Blows. Liza Tarbuck, Keith Chegwin etc. are only playing fictional versions of themselves, who in turn are playing characters. Therefore, the quality of their "performances" in the sitcom do not necessarily reflect their real-life acting abilities." Almost good enough for BJAODN! -- FP (talk)(edits) 12:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Season vs. Series

What I normally call a "season" (I'm from the US), this page refers to as a "series". This is confusing because the page title is "Extras (TV series)". We should probably adopt something consistent. What's worse is that the term "season" is also used.

I saw this when I was cleaning up the article yesterday but didn't have time to think it through. From Television program, via Series: "Americans call a short run lasting less than a year a season; People of the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland generally call this a series." So the whole thing is a TV series, also with series 1 and series 2. UK typically doesn't refer to 'Season' in the same way, although I'm an ex pat for 6 years, and with the number of US shows in the schedule that may have changed. --Steve 22:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
It was advertised in the UK as series two. Does anybody know as to what it was referred in the US? Pinster2001 14:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ratings

Does anyone know the average ratings for the program, series one and two. i am struggling to find them on the internet. I think it would be a useful thing to have on the page also.

[edit] US episode order?

The Region 1 DVD release that came out today has the Kate Winslet episode as the first episode, which differs from the UK order. Can anyone confirm if this reflects HBO's broadcast order, or is it just something done for the DVD? It is NOT a case of following the production order, as Gervais says on the DVD that the Jackson episode was the first one filmed. 23skidoo 05:45, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I have confirmed from my own recollection, my on demand cable service and hbo.com that the US broadcast order did have the Kate Winslet episode as the first one, and if fact with the exception of the Patrick Stewart episode all others were broadcast in a different order to the UK as well. I have updated the Episode Order section of the page with this information. No idea why the difference though. Richc80 06:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible trivia addition.

There may be a connection between Jude Law not being available (being busy with the film "alfie"), and the actor turning down the role of "alfie" in 'when the whistle blows'. The role later being filled by Keith Chegwin, whos poor acting forces changes in the script. I'm not saying Patrick Stewart wasn't good (probably the best ep from season 1), but that may be a reflection of the writers opinion of either Patrick Stewart or Jude Law. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.31.32.173 (talk) 03:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

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