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[edit] NPOV?

Jeff, the language "non-institutional fellowship of churches of Christ," is an example of POV language, reflecting a POV that I (an FC alumnus), for example, do not share. The notion of a "fellowship of churches," and moreover, of such a fellowship defined by one particular doctrine, is sectarian and therefore contrary to the very ideals that many of us do share. That there are sectarian minded folks in many churches is true no doubt. And that many who may attend FC might have such a mindset might or might not be true. Perhaps it is your POV. But generally so characterizing FC's staff, faculty and most of its student body as belonging to a "fellowship of churches" defined in such terms is to impose on them someone else's POV. The line needs to be deleted.

Let me clarify, the issue is not whether most are opposed to "institutionalism" (I am); the issue is this language, "fellowship of churches." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.243.9.106 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 5 June 2006.

Okay, I think I understand now. However, there's no denying that FC pulls its staff, faculty, and vast majority of its students from members of non-institutional churches. Perhaps would be better to just state it that way, without the "fellowship of churches" stuff? I believe that language was originally borrowed from the pre-rewrite non-instutional churches page.
(BTW, if you use four tildes (~~~~) to mark your comments here, it's easier to tell who wrote what.)
As for the Billy Graham trivia, it's actually mentioned in the orientation sessions at FC (or was back when I went there), as is the Al Capone mention. it could probably be better phrased, though. The degree program stuff probably should go back up top, though, now that I think about it. Jdb1972 18:51, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for considering my points. Let me press one a bit more. Why any such description such as "non-institutional" at all? Should the article also note that most students come from churches that use multiple cups? that have divided bible classes? that meet in dedicated buildings? etc. etc. The one thing that might be by design (by the college administration's design) characteristic of most students is that they are professing Christians, baptized believers. And of course even that is not true of all students. Maybe it could be said that the aim of the founders was to provide a place where parents who are baptized believers might want to send their children. If someone wants to say that, so be it, though it seems to me such gets rather cumbersome for a Wikipedia article. But to offer descriptions such as "non-institutional," even if more or less accurate, really serves no purpose other than to try to say something about the current differences among certain churches, and that shouldn't be the purpose of an article about Florida College. The mention of the fact that the College doesn't accept contributions from churches is sufficient to indicate a significant difference between this school and say, David Lipscomb.69.243.9.106 20:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

In view of the foregoing discussion, I'm going to reinstate the changes I previously made. I will leave the Billy Graham trivia, although it doesn't seem to me that mention of this trivia in a freshman orientation session years ago qualifies it as sufficiently significant to be included in this artile. However, I am deleting the phrase "a church of Christ-affiliated school" inasmuch as this directly contradicts the statement at the beginning of the article that the college is not affiliated with churches. 69.243.9.106 03:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Plagiarism

Appears to be taken word-for-word from http://www.flcoll.edu/about-fc/history.html

See How to write a great Wiki article.

-Ichabod 02:15, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Revert?

This is just the official, PR version from the school's official material. The idea was/is to have an encyclopedic article about the college and not just parrot what is available from its own internal materials. The article is entitled "Florida College", not "History of Florida College". Who the past presidents are, for example, may be of great moment in the school's own official materials but is of very little interest to the general reading public. If this sort of "article" is what Wikipedia is to be about, it could just as well be a directory of web links. I'm not saying that there is no place in the article for some "official" material, but this is just a parroting of what one could get from clicking on the link. I suggest either reverting to the previous version or giving this editor a very short time to improve upon this "article" Rlquall 03:20, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] POV Vandalism

Hey guys! Looks like I've screwed up several times in the last few days. I got myself blocked by accidentally re-reverting a vandals stuff on Eagle and then I get unblocked and come here and it appears I did the same thing here. My apologies. I didn't catch the IP but someone came on Saturday night and messed with Florida College and Church of Christ both. I thought I was reverting the POV back to before, but it looks like I screwed up. Again, my apologies...I'm a wikinoob. --R.A. Ogden 16:23, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

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