Talk:Ford F-Series
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[edit] Special Editions
I think the Lightning header should be renamed as Special Editions, to showcase the specific limited edition models, such as the otherwise mentioned King Ranch, Harley Davidson F-150, and Lightning. The Lightning in particular, with a richer history, should have its own page (for which one exists). Rurik 12:55, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- If this is the case, you should also add Explorer to that list, since the Explorer was originally a Special Edition of the Ford F-Series, then was spread to other light-duty truck lines(Econoline, Ranchero, Bronco), before replacing the "Bronco II." DanTD 14:10, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pointless Links
Shouldn't the link to "Brent Gayhart's" 'tribute page' be removed, seeing as it barely qualifies as a website? The whole page amounts to little more than barely relevant links, and is either an ironic pisstake or truly the work of someone that should not be allowed near a computer. If anything it would put most people off giving Ford trucks another thought. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wefallapart (talk • contribs) 06:46, 14 November 2005.
[edit] Infobox spacing?
What does anyone think about spacing the infoboxes so that they are aligned to the specific sections. When I read this article, I had to scroll up and down to see the infoboxes for each generation of truck. I went ahead and changed them, so let me know if they work. Cheezerman 05:53, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge?
There has been a merge tag on Ford F550 for a long time - there is no mention of that number in this article and so I'm not sure if it should be merged or not - could someone who knows the subject either do the merge or remove the tag. Kcordina Talk 15:55, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yes I agree, but am not that sure on the topic Flymeoutofhere 16:20, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- Tough call. This article as it stands deals with just the pickup models (150, 250, and 350), and not so much the commercial models (450 and up). While they're both "F-Series", one could argue splitting them into two articles because of the huge content. But yes, the F550 article should redirect to one or the other. --Vossanova 15:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Tricky - there doesn't seem to be an article for the 450 and up models, which would be the obvious home for the F550 page - I don't think merging to this article is a good idea as the article is already long, and the subject is different, so the 550 information is likely to get lost (or it would need a lot of flagging in which case the article would grow even more). I'm inclined to say leave it as is and hope that someone creates an article for the 450 and up models that is the equivalent of this one. Kcordina Talk 08:30, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Twin I-Beam Suspension
The article says that the Twin I-Beam front suspension came out in 1973. This is incorrect, as the first year for the Twin I-Beam was 1965. The 65 and 66 trucks have "TWIN I-BEAM" emblems on the front fenders. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bugo (talk • contribs) 20:49, 13 April 2006.
[edit] Auto transmission
The article claims that 1973 offered the first automatic transmission option. But in fact there are numerous 1967-72 models still on the road with factory automatics. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.91.83.194 (talk) 11:42, 22 June 2006
[edit] F-150 Explorer
Ford also offerers on 1980-1986 F-150 with Explorer trim. [1] can anyone confirm this —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.83.153.249 (talk) 04:27, 16 June 2006
- The Explorer was a Special Edition from around 1969 to the time it replaces the Bronco II. DanTD 14:12, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] COMBATT
Any idea which of the F350s the COMBATT is based on. I came across what I think is an example on Irish_Army_Rangers#Specialised_Equipment there is some more info at [[2]]
Ekilfeather 22:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tenth generation last model year?
Since this generation of the F-150 was made for 2004 as the Heritage model while sharing its place with the current Eleventh generation, shouldn't the last model year of the Tenth generation be listed as 2004 and not 2003 ? —S3BST3R 06:32, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Are the generations arbitrary, or official?
Why is 1992 called a new generation truck with only a new front end, gauges, and slightly different tailgate IIRC, while the truck got about the same level of changes, for example, for 1951 (new front fascia) ? Are these the generations as defined by Ford Motor or some Wikipedia user? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lio45 (talk • contribs) 17:20, 1 September 2006.
[edit] Sales records?
Two claims are made in this article which conflict with externally verified claims elsewhere on Wikipedia:
- The 912,000 sold in 2004 is claimed to be a single year record, but conflicts with several sources, not least of all Ford themselves. It was beaten in 2005 (939,000), but Ford only claims that to be a single year record for trucks.[3] Furthermore, as cited at List of automotive superlatives, the Chevrolet Impala's 1965 tally was >1,000,000.[4]
- More importantly, it's claimed in the opening to be "the best-selling vehicle in the world for 23 years". I don't have global figures, but I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of the vehicle's sales are in the U.S. market, so there's not going to be a lot more to add to the 940,000 sold last year. This compares with the Toyota Corolla, for which Toyota claims 1.36 million in 2005.[5]
I've edited the article to tone down the hyperbole a bit. --DeLarge 16:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
In response to the second claim you address, I feel that the trouble with this claim is that it is not well-defined--as very few things are in advertising. (For example, "America's Favorite Fries" was a trademark used by McDonald's in the 1990s) Anyway, the meaning of "the best-selling vehicle in the world" is not a well-defined statement. The F-Series has been on the market for a long time, which means that the total gross sales over the vehicle's lifetime on the market probably exceeds that of other car lines. The problem is that the criterion to decide what is "the best-selling vehile in the world" was never officially or rigorously defined.
[edit] NPOV Tag
I added an NPOV tag to the 2008 Superduty section because it reads like a sale pitch. Sounds like it was written by someone who really likes Ford and dislikes "the competition". Phasmatisnox 00:46, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- I have not seen the Chevrotlet/Gmc truck articles, but strong opposition between the two manufacturers (ford and GM) and between the loyal consumers of each brand does exist. Or are you just someone that really dislikes ford and really likes "the competition"? Actually, I rather liked the article.66.190.151.65 23:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC) Wiki Guest user
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- I've rewritten it, that section wasn't very good anyway. It needs to be expanded though. --Sable232 00:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Heavier-duty vehicles
Should there be more mention of some of Ford's F-series medium duty trucks, like the F750 and F800? Both have been in common North American use for decades, but there is only a very brief mention in the 'notes' section. I don't think I have enough info to write anything, but should any content on this subject go here? Although they aren't pickups, conventional medium cabs were and are part of the F-series. Blotto adrift 22:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Absolutely. They should be covered somewhere, but I'm not sure if they ought to be here or on a new page, since this one is fairly long. I recall there were a few editors who wanted to put together a WikiProject for heavy trucks, I suppose the F-650 and up would fall under that. Either way, I'd like to see them covered. --Sable232 01:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I agree, and I think there should be a whole new page on it, with direct links between the both of them. I've already got chapters arranged for each generation of the medium-duty F-Series. And if you cover those, you should also add the B-Series School Bus chassis to go with them. ---- DanTD 14:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] South American Versions
I would happily translate the original spanish language version and re-post it, if it were to become available to me. I can see various instances of babelfishesque literary contamination evident throughout the text... Sospelotudo 03:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Information on a 1996 ford f250 with a 460 engine
I am looking for some information on my ford f250. I've had it for a few years now and I'm looking to find out how many ford f250 came with 460 engines. All I the information is not the diesel. Or some people tell me the engine wasn't an option in 1996 for f250. I've seem them in f350, but no luck with the f250. I was talking to a salesman at the dealer ship and he told me the engine could be a special order, making the truck a rare one to find.
Could anyone tell me were I could find out more information, it would be greatly appreciated My e-mail is trevor339@hotmail.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.93.80.85 (talk) 23:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC).