Talk:Foro de São Paulo
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[edit] New content and changes
I added a new topic, corrected some grammar errors of the previous text, and renamed the "Noteworthy participants" section to "Partial list of participants", because the word "noteworthy" involves a judgement by the editor of what is worthy of note and this obviously varies. Either we offer a complete list or we should just say that it's a partial list. Selecting which participants to highlight (and worse, claiming that they are noteworthy) is not impartial. The text which I expanded means to show that the FSP is made up of several organizations which have different points of view, and that the unifying positions are stated in the final declarations of the meetings. If anyone has objections to the content and would like to make suggestions of changes, I'll be avaliable. The contents here are, however, a summary of what is offered in the Portuguese version. I had to translate parts of the first declaration, which I'm not sure if it's standard here at Wikipedia. I'd appreciate if others offer links to the final documents and references of the text. Thanks. abueno 18:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Removed link (forum)
Hello, I removed the link for forum as there isn't currently an article for that usage of forum (and, imo, it would only be a dictionary definition if such a page were created). Politepunk 23:44, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removed reference to Transnational political parties
There is absolutely no base to the claim that Foro de São Paulo is a transnational political party. This is solely an analysis of some groups critical of FSP, who claim that it attempts to coordinate the action of left-wing parties throughout Latin America, much the same way the Communist Third International did. Even if this allegation were true, this would not make a single transnational party out of the several groups and political parties that participate in the FSP. Each group and party continues to have an independent identity. It is ludicrous to claim, for example, that the Workers Party (PT), in Brazil, and the Communist Party of Cuba are a single organization, even while they may have converging points of interest and action. abueno 16:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism: removal of reference to Transnational political parties undone
I have explained the reason why the removal of the Transnational Political Parties link was necessary and correct. Whomever put this reference back to the site should have at least argued why it should continue. Once again, I will remove this reference and I must alert that any attempt to restore the link without prior discussion here will be considered vandalism and taken to Wikipedia's administration for analysis and the necessary action. abueno 16:01, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Neutrality and factual accuracy disputed; more changes to come
I disputed the neutrality and factual accuracy of this article due to its claims that the FSP was created by Fidel Castro; its lack of reference to the fact that there are more than 100 organizations involved in the FSP, many of which are not socialist but nationalist; for the inclusion of the "criticism" section without providing an oposing view; and the general lack of relevant information which shows the FSP's support to democratic governance, among other points. I will atempt to offer a more reliable version of this article in the future, based on the version that was written in Portuguese. abueno 16:03, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism: removal of the "Neutrality and factual accuracy disputed" banner
I disputed the neutrality and factual accuracy of this article and someone removed the banner showing that this content had been disputed. Whomever did this probably knows it is against the rules of Wikipedia. I'll quote the site's page on the topic
Improper use of dispute tags
Dispute tags are an important way for people to show that there are problems with the article. Do not remove them unless you are sure that all stated reasons for the dispute are settled. As a general rule, do not remove other people's dispute tags twice during a 24 hour period. Do not place dispute tags improperly, as in when there is no dispute, and the reason for placing the dispute tag is because a suggested edit has failed to meet consensus. Instead, follow WP:CON and accept that some edits will not meet consensus. Please note that placing or removal of dispute tags does not count as simple vandalism, and therefore the reverting of such edits is not exempt from the three-revert rule.
If this problem continues, I will take the issue over to the administration of Wikipedia with a complaint about vandalism, which may result in the user's banning. abueno 16:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
