Talk:Gabriele Amorth
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[edit] Number of Exorcisms
At 17:05, 15 September 2005, an anonymous user at IP address [[User:128.231.88.4|128.231.88.4] entered the following in the text of the article:
- "So, 30,000 exorcisms in 20 years...wow..that ammounts to 4 exorcisms per day continually during the last 20 years...and no wikipedian challenges this ridiculous number...what demonstrates that wikipedia sucks!!! anyway...have a good day..."
His approach is hostile and it was promptly removed, However, he did the math and got it right. Average 4 a day seven days a week, no breaks. Any comments? -WCFrancis 22:25, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, his first book states that he has performed over 30,000 exorcisms. That is Father Amorth's claim. Where are you getting this four a day business? How can the math be correct when you don't even know how many people he sees in a day? Have you read his book? He describes them as not hours and hours a day on one person but talks about appointments and it sounds like he goes through more than four people a day. Driving out the Devil
Dwain 20:12, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
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- The math is simple...he's been an exorcist since 1986, that's 20 years...30,000 exorcisms in 20 years is 1500 per year, giving an average of about 4 per day. That does seem like a lot to me...I didn't imagine exorcisms were so routine.
- There are some rites in Catholicism that can be done for large groups at once; blessings are the most common, but I vaguely recall going to a mass annointing of the sick when my great aunt was seriously ill. The article on exorcism would suggest this shouldn't be the case for this rite under canon law, but it may be wrong, or the rules may have changed since Amorth started. He may not always have done them one at a time.
- That said, I feel compelled to give my (unsubstantiated) opinion: he sounds like a real whack job. Abb3w 16:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- This is a perfect example of how Satan works! Dwain 16:57, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- How? by using arithmetic? Serendipodous 13:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
- Duh! No, by saying that the guy sounds like a "real whack job"! How would you like to be called a whack job? To call someone a whack job based on the fact that they are a priest who does exorcisms is a perfect example of Satan working through humans. Dwain 14:51, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
- We find it difficult to believe a priori that a single person can, without vacations nor even a day of rest, perform constant exorcisms enough to constitute 4 per day for 20 years, assuming individual and not mass exorcisms. Skepticism is a hallmark of scholasticism more often than Satanism. Heartofgoldfish 04:43, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- Skepitcism aside, I'm talking about labeling a person a whack job. There are two types of exorcisms a long involved affair and a shorter version. If anyone writing here has actually read Amorth's book they would know that. A lot of the people he helps he sees for a short period of time. He schedules appointments and performs the lesser form or exorcism and they go on their way. Sure people can be skeptical about the number he reports or about exorcisms. But to attack a person because he's a priest and an exorcist is an obvious work of the devil. The person even said that he felt "compelled" to give his opinion. That is called temptation it's too bad he was unable to fight the urge to do the Satan's work. And, of course, here again the doubters and unbelievers who are more likely to believe in the power of rocks than in God or Satan can call me names. I gist is, Amorth reports this number in his book. Dwain 13:34, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- We find it difficult to believe a priori that a single person can, without vacations nor even a day of rest, perform constant exorcisms enough to constitute 4 per day for 20 years, assuming individual and not mass exorcisms. Skepticism is a hallmark of scholasticism more often than Satanism. Heartofgoldfish 04:43, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- Duh! No, by saying that the guy sounds like a "real whack job"! How would you like to be called a whack job? To call someone a whack job based on the fact that they are a priest who does exorcisms is a perfect example of Satan working through humans. Dwain 14:51, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
- How? by using arithmetic? Serendipodous 13:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
- This is a perfect example of how Satan works! Dwain 16:57, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- The math is simple...he's been an exorcist since 1986, that's 20 years...30,000 exorcisms in 20 years is 1500 per year, giving an average of about 4 per day. That does seem like a lot to me...I didn't imagine exorcisms were so routine.
[edit] Official exorcist
All exorcists who are priests are official. No priest can made an exorcism without the permission of Vatican, except in particular situations. --Ilario 12:10, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Not every archdiocese has an exorcist. In those cases when one is needed an available priest may be granted permission to perform an exorcism. When it says "official exorcist" in the article it is refering to the fact that he was officially made the exorcist of Rome. I do not see any problems with how it is written. Dwain 21:34, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] An address for Father Amorth
I wish to write to Father Amorth if anyone can give me an address for him. goddarda@iprimus.com.au 23/3/2006
[edit] Reference section is horrible!
I do not like the currect reference section it is terrible! It is hard to read cluttered with unnecessary stuff like "HTML" and when something was retrieved! Then of course this "a.,b.,c." nonsense. Why can't this be an ordinary reference page instead of this cluttered mess that is currently there now? I know that not every article has this mess for a system. Dwain 16:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)