Talk:Gene Robinson
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Robinson's middle name is not Imogene, it is Gene. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1074456,00.html) This has been corrected previously but someone keeps putting in Imogene.
That links says nothing to that effect. In fact, A Church at War, which is also by Stephen Bates, states that that is his middle name. His parents were expecting a girl, and he was not expected to live. Carolynparrishfan 00:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree with a quote I saw in the Guardian that the allegations against Robinson were a clumsy smear campaign. In the grand scheme of things, they probably don't matter too much. Should the article discuss them in such detail? On the other hand, since he was cleared, it seems reasonable to give some reasons why, rather than leave doubt in the reader's mind... Evercat 02:24, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- In 1972 he married, even though he still had doubts about his sexuality, of which he had told his partner.
Does the term partner above mean his wife? Or what? Usually the term "partner" specifically means gay lover, so it's ambiguous here. -- Ed Poor
- Yes, it means his wife, though I didn't want to use "wife" since that kinda implies he told her after they'd been married, which isn't my understanding. I suppose the solution is just to refer to her by name... Evercat 17:37, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- Never mind, Someone else fixed it up. Evercat 17:51, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Thanks, Evercat. And now the burning "NPOV" question: could you tell from my edits what my position is on "gay marriage"? If not, then I guess I really have mastered NPOV writing. But if my position is obvious (or even discernable), then I guess I have a lot more to learn... --Ed Poor
- Well I already knew from what you'd said on the mailing list. :-) You were probably right to reword the "cure" bit since my draft probably suggested my POV that homosexuality cannot and should not be cured... In turn I removed your scare quotes from "partner" since I don't see the problem with the word. Evercat 11:42, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Good lord, his parents didn't name him "Vicki" did they? Bastie 04:08, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, Vicki Imogene. They expected a girl, and thought he was going to die soon after birth. Carolynparrishfan
- If at all possible, could somebody find a way to address this in the article? I saw the name and my first instinct was to go hunting in the edit history for vandalism. Bearcat 19:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- Done Fishhead64 02:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- If at all possible, could somebody find a way to address this in the article? I saw the name and my first instinct was to go hunting in the edit history for vandalism. Bearcat 19:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Firsts
- Robinson is best known for becoming the first openly non-celibate gay bishop in the Anglican Communion
Were there in fact celibate openly gay bishops in the Anglican Communion before him?--Pharos 07:20, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
- The Right Reverend Otis Charles came out when he retired in 1993 [1]. He is not celebate; he married his partner last summer in San Francisco. [2] It doesn't look like we have an article on him yet. We should. Jonathunder 04:20, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Charles is not the best example: he came out after he retired. So its not like he was openly gay when he was consecrated to the historic episcopate. Carolynparrishfan 17:56, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- Bishop Charles, though retired, still remains part of the historic episcopate and is still part of the house of bishops in the Episcopal Church in the U.S.A. No Account 00:12, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] A Few Points
1. "Religious life" refers specifically to the way of life of monks and nuns.
2. I cringe at seeing a priest referred to as "Mister".
3. It is rather POV to refer to the bishop who warned of a schism, and then say that the Abp. of Canterbury "echoed" that statement by saying...something that doesn't "echo" it at all! Its quite different to say "Hey, guys, there might be a schism!" and "This will alter the Communion in some way". Williams' statement has been proven correct, Bishop Duncan's remains to be seen. The St. Michael Report has aleady found that the issue should not be communion-breaking. Carolynparrishfan 13:55, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Another Robinson interview
A friend of mine interviewed Robinson a few years ago for a Web site I run called Crunchable.net
The interview (read it here)covers a lot of the same topics as this Wikipedia article (growing up in the Disciples of Christ church, coming out to his family and so on), but Robinson tells the story in his own voice with an emphasis on his personal experience.
With the Episcopal Church back in the headlines now (to wit: Washington Post), I was wondering if people might find the interview useful or interesting, making it worth adding to the "External links" section.
Regardless, the Wikipedia article should probably also include this link to the Diocese of New Hampshire's profile of Robinson.
— crunchyduck 02:25, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
