Talk:Ghadir Mokheimer
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Do we really need an article about every person who gets shot in Israel? Adam Bishop 00:29, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Why not? This one contains external links to the news stories, and seems to be put together well enough. I recommend it stay. Autopilots 00:33, Oct 14, 2004 (UTC)
- As much as I think her death was depressingly sad, we can't and shouldn't report every killing in Israel, just like we can't report any other terrible deaths here unless there's notabaility enough for it to belong here. Delete. Sarge Baldy 00:38, Oct 14, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete: Memorials are one of the things that Wikipedia is not. It is not relevant in what cause the death occurred, whether insurgency, bystander, or car accident. Geogre 03:34, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- If you were to find major stories on CNN and the BBC about someone dying in a car accident, then that would be a comparable situation. This article is more notable than an average accident. Factitious 20:39, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep: I agree that Wikipedia is not a place for memorials. However, this is not what this article is. Rather the article provides further background in to the surrounding events and can be used for future articles or information on the conflict therefore it is relevant. For precedent see the Muhammed_A-Dura article. -- Dejitarob 05:57, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Delete : as pointed in article Muhammed_A-Dura, this latter victim became a symbol which justifies the article. It does not create a precedent in favour of Ghadir Mokheimer inclusion in the Wikipedia. --French Tourist 06:37, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Not a lot are shot down. If this were as common as suicide bombing casualties, I would say delete, but it's not and background for this event is useful. Cool Hand Luke 06:39, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, she's been in the news a lot. Wyllium 10:42, 2004 Oct 14 (UTC)
- Delete, sad as the story is, I don't see how it's notable enough for inclusion -- Ferkelparade π 13:07, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Nothing to suggest that this is more than a memorial, which we've already established doesn't belong. I don't see that this story, though tragic indeed, will become more than a footnote in the history of the conflict. —Triskaideka 17:07, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Does not belong on Wikipedia. --Improv 18:12, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Weak keep, but... is there anywhere we can merge/redirect this, to a general page describing the actual fighting, (and how CNN claims it has reached schools) —siroχo 19:46, Oct 14, 2004 (UTC)
- How creating, and making a merge/redirect, into something like Children killed in Arab-Israeli conflict?
- Delete. Memorials are not for Wikipedia and an article is not notable merely for news coverage of the subject. -- WOT 05:03, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, this sort of thing has happened too often to be that notable. Delete. Average Earthman 08:41, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Perhaps you could let the major news media know that they're wasting their time on non-notable stories, then? Factitious 20:39, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete RustyCale 11:32, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Keep want to bet that more people have heard of this than GNAA? it's notable enough to be in the major newspapers. some npov detail surrounding the circumstances and any subsequent investigations would be welcome. A merge into some broader article (with redirect) would also be acceptable.Wolfman 00:30, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Comparing two articles which don't belong in Wikipedia is not a convincing argument for the notability of either one. Isomorphic 15:54, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, of course, and stop deletion trolls. Intrigue 21:42, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Keep --L33tminion 01:53, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Wikipedia is not paper. anthony (see warning) 15:42, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. People die in conflicts. Is this girl more notable or interesting than most? Isomorphic 15:54, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Yes, but I fail to see how that's relevant. anthony (see warning) 17:40, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Notable. Wiki != paper. GRider 19:55, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Delete because I agree with every other delete vote so far. While her death might have been unfortunate, I agree that Wikipedia is not a memorial site. --ScottyBoy900Q∞ 19:57, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Notable. People who heard her mentioned in the news may very well want to look up information about her. Factitious 20:39, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
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