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[edit] Confusion

The following statement is confusing:

In 1056 and 1059, by the treaties of Andernach, Baldwin received the march of Ename in the shire of Brabant, probably in exchange for giving up the march of Valenciennes, which was confiscated by emperor Henry III in 1045.

It originally read:

In 1059, by the treaty of Andernach, Baldwin received the march of Ename in the landgraviate of Brabant, probably in exchange for giving up the march of Valenciennes, which he had confiscated in 1045.

The confusion rests not in the date or number of treaties nor in the relation of Brabant to Ename, but in the nature of the confiscation of Valenciennes. It originally sounded like Baldwin confiscated Valenciennes in 1045 and later exchanged it for the march of Ename. The new version seems to say that the emperor took Valenciennes (from Baldwin) in 1045 and later made the confiscation legitimate by giving Baldwin Ename. Which version is correct? Srnec 18:27, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

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