Talk:Hackney Wick
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It's not in the reader's best interests to separate Hackney Wick from Hackney, of which it is an integral part. --Wetman 09:39, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
I don't agree at all (well I wouldn't). I've just done a clean-up job to disambiguate the whole Hackney question, so have directed the main use of the head term 'Hackney' to the modern London borough page. By this criterion, Hackney (district), in the sense of a neighbourhood, becomes just one small part of the modern borough (I've moved it to a page called Hackney Central) and it is certainly not something you can merge with Hackney Wick, any more than you can merge it with Homerton. (Or are you saying we should not have a list of districts within boroughs? - Apart from anything else, I believe that this borough->district format is an approved part of the Wikipedia London Project.)
Hackney Wick surely constitutes a discrete neighbourhood with a character of its own - and it's quite a way from Hackney Central, further than Homerton, in fact. For the other older usage of Hackney, meaning the pre-1965 borough, we do have a Metropolitan borough page. I've covered them all on the disambiguation page, anyway.
Tarquin Binary 17:04, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Additional - not to sound so abrupt :) Can I suggest taking a look at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_London. It's probably the right discussion to air points about the ambiguity of place names. As you can see from it, there is considerable pressure to make the Borough the head term in any given case, but it seems to have been left since last year.
Frankly it's the only thing that makes sense, if one is to have district lists for each borough (which I am actually in favour of, and why I tried it on my home borough) If you take the Islington entry, which I have not converted - it goes to the notional Islington, roughly speaking the old LCC borough. But the problem is 1) that there are districts like Angel which are linked from the Borough entry leading to a bit of duplication. 2) There is already an LCC Metropolitan borough entry covering the same area. This is also duplication.
Some duplication is fine (I like the idea of having districts where you can expand entries, so that the borough entry can be honed down) but this is frankly a mess. Hoping to clean up the Hackney stuff even more when I get time.
Tarquin Binary 17:23, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Just to show - I'm from Hackney borough, Stoke Newington district - so ignorant of the ways of easterners ;) - have just changed Hackney (central) to Hackney Central on the suggestion of someone from that locale, because that's the way they'd write it (or say it - no implied brackets). Certainly no-one from Hackney Central would consider it the the same as the Wick or vice versa. Totally different 'hood.
Tarquin Binary 18:52, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
