Talk:Herpes zoster
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[edit] Prognosis
I noticed that under the prognosis section that it said rash and pain usually subside within three to five days. I believe this is a mistake and that it should actually say three to five weeks. Not only was a friend of mine recently stricken with the illness for a good 4 and a half weeks, but I have found many links on the web which agree with the prognosis of 3-5 weeks, such as [[1]] and [[2]]. I made the correction to the article. --Nicholas_FJ 10:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Acyclovir vs. aciclovir
User:Techelf reverted a change I made to the article, about how to spell acyclovir, valacyclovir and famcyclovir, vaguely citing "WP policy". I checked the style guide to see if any changes had happened recently that I was not aware of, and drug naming in articles is still not covered there. I checked WikiProject Medicine to see if there was any guideline on drug name usage, and found none.
The only thing I could find to support Techelf's idea of "WP policy" was a naming convention at Wikipedia:WikiProject Drugs, which does establish a convention to use INN names for article titles, with redirects at the other accectped spellings. A WikiProject established naming convention regulates where an article resides in the database, it does not establish what spelling is used in other articles, especially ones not covered by the WikiProject.
If there is some other policy I'm not aware of, please let me know. Otherwise, I intend to follow the policy at the manual of style and return the spelling used in this article by "following the spelling style preferred by the first major contributor (that is, not a stub) to the article." Gentgeen 02:20, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- The Manual of Style says that use of the "style preferred by the first major contributor" only applies where "all else fails". I don't really think that applies here.
- Firstly, you're correct in that I was referring to the Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(chemistry)#Drug-related_articles. Because of that policy, article titles for the drugs in question are the International Nonproprietary Names (INN): aciclovir, valaciclovir and famciclovir. Looking through the "What links here" on each of those articles, it seems the general consensus is to link the INN – it simply doesn't make sense to use the United States Adopted Name (USAN) when article titles are INNs. (And incidentally, even the USAN is "famciclovir").
- Even if you use the "all else fails" option, the first major contribution to this article was edit 8404076 by User:Jfdwolff. This contribution was in British English. He used "acyclovir", "valaciclovir" and "famciclovir" because these were the British Approved Names (BAN) at the time (when the UK was in the process of full transition to INNs). BANs are now the same as INNs, thus the INN spellings aciclovir, valaciclovir and famciclovir seem justified.
- I probably should've explained myself a little more clearly initially, but these are my reasons (and probably those of some other editors of this page) for using INNs. -Techelf 11:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Parts of this article appear to be written by a child so I am removing one for now. 24.154.173.50 00:05, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Citation needed
However, prior to the vaccine, it has long been known that adults received natural immune boosting from contact with children infected with varicella. This helped to suppress the reactivation of herpes zoster. Sounds like anti-vaccine drivel to me, but I'll give it a week or so. -- KelleyCook 20:34, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- Here's a study out of Boston, Mass. [3] Gentgeen 20:37, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- yeah I had just found it referenced in the Yih study and was about to strikeout my comment KelleyCook 20:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] St Anthony's Fire
Whoever wrote that this ailment is known as St Anthony's fire in Italy and Malta... are you sure of that? in France, the term is known to have been used to designate ergotism, which was particularly virulent in the high and late middle ages ... and I doubt that usage would have varied that much.--Svartalf 20:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
It's right: in Italy shingles is generally known as 'fuoco di Sant'Antonio'. I don't know how was 'ergotism' called in the same region and if it was ever common there since rye isn't a normally grown in the mediterranean region. Plch 15:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- The italian version of Wikipedia (see Ergot) states that the term fuoco di Sant'Antonio, as well as fuoco sacro (sacred fire) and fuoco degli ardenti (fire of the burning men), was applied indistinctly to both shingles and ergotism during the Middle Ages (some early symptoms are similar, so the confusion is understandable). Ergotism being much less common nowadays, the term continues to be applied to shingles almost exclusively. About ergotism being uncommon in Italy, there are documented outbreaks in Milan in 1128 and 1132 (the last one in 1795), as well as Turin (1798) and other cities in continental Italy (which by the way can hardly be defined "mediterranean"). Rye was (and still is) a very common crop, at least in northern Italy. -- EmirCalabuch 14:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Shingles Too
My doctor told me it is very common. Everything I read is that it's common in adults over the age of 50 or 60. I am 38 and was just diagnosed with shingles. -- Shinglestoo 30 July 2006
i got shinlges on my back and stomach at 17 casue i had the flu, nose bleeds and was going to court at the same time that was just too much stress for me
[edit] shingles
Is it possible to get shingles (if you're a bigger person) underneath your belly? perry
It's possible to get shingles on any part of the body however some locations are much more common.--Gbleem 12:27, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] stages
The main text says things tend to clear up in 3-5 weeks, but the Stages section says 4-5 days. I wonder if that refers to the person in the photograph specifically -- if so it should be clarified. Cbogartdenver 13:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] std
is herpes zoster an STD? crabs and scabies and HPV can be transmitted skin to skin, which makes me think that this may also be an STD, if so i think it should be added to Template STD/STI Qrc2006 09:29, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- It's not an STD. There are lots of diseases that can be transmitted by skin to skin contact or during sex that are not considered STD's. --Gbleem 12:26, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- Additionally, if you contract the viracella zoster virus from someone with shingles, you develop chicken pox, not shingles. Gentgeen 04:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] vaccination effect
"Prior to implementation of the universal varicella vaccination program in the U.S., incidence of shingles increased with advancing age." This is confusing to me because later the article says that shingles will increase because of lack of exposure to unvaccinated children. If I assume incidence is measured including all people then maybe there is a clearer way to say this? --Gbleem 03:00, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Herpes Zoster vs Herpes Simplex
Does Herpes Zoster have anything to do with Herpes Simplex? Are they caused by 2 completely different viruses? Why are the names similar?Pvkc 20:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
- I have added a link to the introduction that should make that easier to find. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Meggar (talk • contribs) 07:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC).
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- In case you did not get the answer you wanted, there are approximately 8 herpes viruses that infect human beings. Herpes zoster, when in chicken pox form, is called varicella zoster, is related to Herpes simplex. However, zoster is not an STD, it's only contagious when the skin is erupted, and has a different etiology. You should read the Herpesviridae for more information. Orangemarlin 23:27, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Chickenpox
I am thinking chickenpox should be mentioned in the first paragraph due to the interconnection between the two. MDSNYDER 17:35, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Done Orangemarlin 23:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
