Talk:History of Somalia
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I usually stick to stylistic changes (which this article could really use IMHO), but I recently made what I believe to be a factual correction. I changed "anti-Mahdist revolution" to "Mahdist revolution". Please revert if I am mistaken.
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[edit] Merge?
I think this article and its information should be merged with the "Somalia" article...each one has a some facts the other doesn't, but a lot of it is repetitve. The information of the two would make a lot more sense together--69.66.240.245 01:35, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Somali organization names?
can anyone provide full names (with English translation) of the mass organizations of the Barre period? Such as XGUSS, UDHIS, UDKS, XUSS, etc.? --Soman 21:38, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] TfD nomination of Template:2004Earthquake
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[edit] Intro
Is the new intro sufficient to warrant removing the 'context' tag at the top? Wesley 04:06, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Removing the Arabic spelling
I removed the Arabic spelling of the word Somali because the vast majority of Somalis do not speak Arabic, though Arabic along with Somali are "official" languages. It is official restrictly to please the Arabic League, which Somalia is a member. Soomaali Nov., 15, 2005
- Actually a large amount of somalis do speak arabic and almost all Somalis know the arabic text because of the Quran. In Somalia, the early life of a youngster basicialy involves the studying of the Quran and the the Hadiths and most do this while learning arabic. not mention that there is a sizeable portion of the Somali population on earth (total Somali population) live in arab countries due tot he civil war.
[edit] Somails
Aren't they arabs? Part of Arab union aren't they —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jmac800 (talk • contribs).
Somalis are not Arab. Being Muslim does not an Arab make, sir (or madam).
[edit] Date standard
There are several instances of (Month Day, Year) and several instances of (Day Month Year). They need to all be one format for ease of reference. --ZsinjTalk 08:07, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Grammar stuff
"In the late 14th century and early 15th century, Emperor Dawit I took measures against Yeshaq I, came to the throne and launched a war against the Medieval kingdom of Adal (roughly contemporaneous with modern day Somaliland), a tributary kingdom that revolted and whose raids were disrupting rule in adjacent areas. "
This sentence is so badly written I don't what is going on. Emperor Dawit I of WHAT took measures against Yeshaq I of what? and WHO came to the throne? Where is Adal?
You can never assume the people reading the article will make the same assumptions you are making. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Arthurian Legend (talk • contribs) 20:59, 15 June 2006.
[edit] Time to split this article up?
As it currently reads (& has read for a long time now), over three-fourths of this article covers the history of Somalia since 1970, & about half of the total details General Said Barre's rule. Further, this article is way too long to the point of being unwieldly; I gave up trying to work on it 18 months ago. For these reasons, I suggest that remove much of the section that discuss the General's 10 years in power be moved to its own article, & replace that material with a summary. -- llywrch 05:33, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ahmad Gragn's viciousness
Someone tagged the following sentence with a request for sources:
- Regrouped Muslim armies with Ottoman support and arms marched into Ethiopia employing scorched earth tactics and slaughtered any Ethiopian that refused to convert from Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity to Islam.
A casual reading of the primary source for this part of Ahmad Gragn's career, Sihab ad-Din Ahmad bin 'Abd al-Qader, Futuh al-Habasa (translated by Paul Lester Stenhouse as The conquest of Ethiopia, with annotations by Richard Pankhurst [Hollywood: Tsehai, 2003] ISBN 0972317252) will reveal many examples of these actions. Written by a sympathetic Muslim, this history details the looting & burning of churches, & the execution of Christians (or their enslavement). In short, his acts were but one chapter in the religiously-motivated violence between Christians & Muslims in this part of Africa that has occured over the last several centuries.) I could document his acts in this article, but Ahmad Gragn's actions are tangential to this article, & I am in the process of writing a new version of the article on this important Muslim personage based on this book. -- llywrch 19:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The treaties with Italy (1889-91)
In 1885 Somalia was commonly considered under German influence. Italy, heir of the long Genoese and Venetian colonial experience, signed by its emissary (Vincenzo Filonardi) following treaties in Somalia: on February 8, 1889 with the Sultan of Hobyo; on April 7, 1889 with the Sultan of Majeerteen; on March 24, 1891 with the chiefs of Mogadishu. Somalia was (and is)a strategic territory to control the sea routes between the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.
[edit] The decisive battle in WWII.
The decisive battle in Somalia in WWII took place at Gelib (Juba River) on February 22-24, 1941. The British were supported by war ships in the Indian Ocean, among them the aircraft-carrier "Hermes". The British defeated the Italians and took Mogadishu on February 27.
