Talk:Hypochondria
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[edit] state of mind?
I would rather disagree with sentence "In this case, the hypochondria is not so much a psychological disorder so much as a state of mind.". Yes, drug advertisements and general availability of information on health subjects surely spawned many 'wannabe hypochonders', but it often can be more than just a state of mind. Similar to depression, one can have mild type of this disorder, but that doesn't make it just state of mind - it still has psychologic roots, probably most often in low self-esteem and feeling of one's unimportancy.
Yeah but I'm no expert, although I've been diagnosed as 'those hypochondrical symptoms are there for sure' by one doctor and 'you certainly aren't hypochonder' by another. Analytik 19:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- I am the author of that sentence. You have a valid concern, and this is an area that has not been completely explored in psychology. Popular psychology seems to leave little room for the mind to play in. That is to say, many things that people say, think, or do are attributed not to the person's own train of thought or creativity, but treated as an inevitable end that their mind reached subconciously as a normal process of known psychological effects. I beleive that is incorrect, and stems from a general trait of psychologists to beleive in the field of psychology's omniscience. While it is normal to want to explain things in known terms, many people want to explain away anything, even people's thoughts and actions in their own terms. I, for one, don't know why some people are incontent to admit the they don't know something- even when no one does.
- This whole discussion is moot anyway, as someone has edited that paragraph out in favor of something more politically correct, sensitive, and bland. Phasmatisnox
My question is when is it a state of mind and when is it being a concerned patient. I mean, say we ignore a bad stomach ache and it turns out to be appendicitis? Or say we have symptoms that could be a number of things yet we ignore it and it does turn out to be serious? Maybe there is no such thing as hypochondria and instead, it's just an irritated doc or family member? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.47.15.38 (talk • contribs) 18:47, 26 September 2006.
[edit] Tips
I am unsure if I want to keep/put the tips section. I think it could be useful as several articles that i've read show how CBT uses some of the techniques i've mentioned there, and I have benefited from independantly doing those things (as a hypochondriac). Maybe merge it with treatment somehow? --Spindled 19:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
As a psychiatrist, I know of no medical literature to support taking Magnesium for prevention/treatment of panic attacks. Suggest deleting this tip. Otherwise, great start on a complicated illness.24.2.59.252 01:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] thehypochondriac.com
I have removed this site because it provides no information that isn't already here, links to pages and pages worth of spam, and contains a forum with very little information at the moment. Maybe in time, in a few months say, when it is an established site it would be worth having, but currently it is only being added probably as an attempt to increase it's hits on google. Sparkleyone 06:13, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
- A number of people have already emailed me who found the site through Wikipedia saying that it believe that it is a great site for those with hypochondria. I admit that the forum participation is small at this point, but the membership is significant enough for it to be of help to those with hypochondriasis. It is not for you alone to decide on what other will find helpful. If the site doesn't help you then you don't have to visit it, however it has already begun to help others who have found the site via this link. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thehypochondriac (talk • contribs) 06:24, 5 May 2006 (UTC).
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- Can I suggest that you read External_links and take note of what it is suggested should be avoided - especially noting that you should not add sites that you own or maintain, there should be content that is informative that is not already in the article, and there should not be an especially large amount of advertising. Sparkleyone 06:33, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I disagree with Sparkleyone. I found this page through Wikipedia and I think that it has a lot of good information on Hypochondria that isn't available here (see especially the diagnosis and treatment pages plus the forum). It also looks like the site webmaster has made a lot of changes in the past couple of days and has definately removed many of the numerous ads that he/she had there before. (207.195.240.48 02:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC))
- The forum has had two posters besides the moderator. All of the other information present on the site is either available here or at the other links that were here previously. But in the spirit of adding links with tiny bits of information I have added several other links, two with forums totalling thousands of posts. Sparkleyone 06:53, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Anatomic region?
Hypochondriac also refers to an anatomic region, on both sides of the epigastric region (above the transpyloric plane, and to the sides of the mid-clavicular line). Basically it's where your ribcage ends, on the right and the left. It's misspelled in the Human abdomen article. Painc 03:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] ocd
lol its a form of ocd isnt it? well, it is for me, i have to look up and persuade myself i don't have any of these illnesses all the time, ive been getting really bad ocd the last few weeks, and constantly think im developing schizophrenia. Fortunately finally realising i have ocd (and not schizophrenia) has made it better coz i know what's causing it, but i can never be sure!
but i'm sure there are some hypochondriacs out there who genuinely believe that they have all the illnesses they've thought they've had, and it's not ocd that causes it coz they genuinely believe that they have them ... i dunno
what about munchausens? does that have anything to do with hypochondria? ya'aseh shalom —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.225.239.62 (talk) 13:42, 12 February 2007 (UTC).
Hypochondriasis and OCD have some similar symptoms, but they are different disorders. Sometimes they co-occur in a person; however, it is not very frequent. If a person is afraid of having an illness (e.g., worrying that a skin bump is a sign of cancer), it might be indicative of hypochondriasis. On the other hand, if one is afraid of getting an illness (e.g., contracting an infection from touching a public restroom doorknob), it is consistent with OCD. Again, these fears and worries must be disproportionate to the risk and more intense and long-lasting than in most people. Skrinsk nat 22:32, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
so there different? i have hypochondria AND ocd then...im not scared of GETTING an illness, but i have other obsessions/compulsions which are caused by ocd and it has been professionally diagnosed. i wonder if its possible to have hypochondria about hypochondria :D
Sounds that you might have both hypochondria and ocd... Interestingly put, "hypochondria about hypochondria" :) For some reason makes me think of depression... Skrinsk nat 03:00, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Effects of Hypochondria
"The effects of hypochondria" section is quite questionable from a scientific point of view. There is no definite proof that hypochondria CAUSES depression or panic attacks (As rehearsed in college textbooks, correlation does not mean causation.) As far as other symptoms, they can be attributed to either anxiety, depression or both. For example, "fear of the impending doom" is one of symptoms of panic attacks. Decreased motivation, fatigue, or loss of interest in sex could be manifestations of depression. Skrinsk nat 22:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Suicide prevention weblink
The inserted suicide prevention website is plain weird and does not seem to relate to hypochondria... just a collection of random information (in addition, not well written). Skrinsk nat 14:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
