Talk:Imelda Marcos
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[edit] POV
Too much POV on both sides, for and against. It also lacks a lead paragraph. What is she famous for? Not worthy as an encyclopedia article. KaElin 09:47, 14 November 2006 (UTC) |living=yes |class= |priority= |politician-work-group=yes }}
[edit] Such a Greedy Bitch
She's filled with self delusions. Has she looked in the mirror lately? She looks like a fat old hag. Give it up, Imelda!
[edit] comment header
I remember reading (in the memoirs of a lawyer whose firm was briefly associated with Imelda) that the majority of her vast shoe collection was the result of Phillipine shoe companies donating to the President's Wife, for the prestige. DS 00:00, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Could be...remember that most, of not all of the alleged Marcos ill gotten wealth came from big Philippine corporations trying to seek favors from president Marcos. User: Soup
First, the shoes. If Imelda's shoes were truly 'gifts' from Manila's shoe industry, why then all the expensive European brands?
Secondly, the money. It has been estimated that Ferdinand Marcos, his wife and his cronies looted the Philippines of up to $25 billion during his 21 years of power, not $600 million as stated in this Wikipedia article. To suggest that Marcos 'earned' this amount of wealth legitimately is nonsense, considering that his official annual salary at the time averaged $13,000 a year! When Marcos established himself as dictator, refusing to give up the presidency in 1972 by declaring martial law, he eventually held absolute power as did his wife. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, as one sees so clearly by the Marcoses' example.
What is tragic is the impact this has had on the Philippines' 85 million people most of whom live in desperate poverty as a direct result of the Marcoses' economic mismanagement, cronyism, excesses and theft.
Loyalists claim that Marcos was already a rich man when he entered office...the so-called "buried yamashita treasures" come into mind. Add that to 25+ years interest money in Swiss banks and Imelda's "gold-mining expeditions", that makes a shitload of money. But that's from the loyalists.
In truth, most of that money came from the prevailing economic trend - crony capitalism. According to the book "America's Boy", briefcases were coming in and out of Malacanang Palace.
About economic mismanagement, the Philippine economy actually enjoyed a substantial growth during the Marcos regime. Trouble was, when the regime became unpopular during the 80s, and especially after the Aquino assassination, the economy became one big clusterfvck. Too much political turmoil.
$684 million has been recovered in only ONE Swiss Bank Account, and it is estimated that the Marcoses have about 10 of these. I may be wrong, but that is the estimated number of accounts. $10 billion is the most common estimate of the Marcos wealth. Imelda once said along these lines, "If you can count your money, you're poor. I don't even know how much money I have." One of the classic "Imeldisms". I suggest you to watch the award winning documentary film "Imelda" to understand more the personality of this controversial political figure.
[edit] What does this mean?
This is an odd sentence:
- She had previously been found guilty of similar charges in 1995, but was acquitted.
Does this mean that she was charged in 1995 and acquitted, or that she was charged and convicted but acquitted on appeal? --Delirium
[edit] Mark Knopfler Song
There is also a Mark Knopfler song called "Imelda" (from the Album "Golden Heart", released 1996). Although not explicitly named, I think one can savely assume that the character in this song who is going shopping for shoes on the Champs Elysées is meant to represent Imelda Marcos. GeckoCode 16:22, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
This is correct - it is very obvious from all of the lyrics that the subject is Imelda Marcos. Also a song about Napoleon on this CD
[edit] Shoes and POV
The second BBC article that this article cites states that fewer than ten of her pairs of shoes were made in the 'shoemaking capital' of the Phillipines, yet this article suggests that all her shoes were made in the Phillipines. Also, using words like 'notorious' seems to me POV--the reader can decide for himself whether a collection of 3000 shoes is excessive. Stearnsbrian 02:20, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reply to above comment
How many feet does the average human have? 2? Then I think "3000 shoes is excessive" is an obvious fact. Assuming that's pairs, it would take you over 8 years of wearing a different shoe every day to go through the entire collection. Anyone owning that many shoes is extravagant not frugal. If each pair of shoe costed $100 (in today's dollars this is a fairly conservative estimate), that would be $300,000 spent on shoes alone. Imagine how much food that could buy for an impoverished country.
You did not know? She has TWELVE FEET! That's why she wears those butterfly sleeves (to hide a pair of feet on each shoulder), a pouped-up hairstyle (to hide 2 more pairs), and somewhere behind her embellished gowns are more feet!
Also, Ferdinand was in fact a cross-dresser! He was really the one who ordered all those elaborate gowns, bulletproof bra, and bulletproof girdle and multi-million dollar jewelry! He would come out at night, walked the grounds of Malacanan in his, er, her finery. (!) ooooops, this is supposed to be a secret. ;) 2 September 2006 (UTC)it's me bongbong
[edit] Birth Date
I have changed the birth year back to 1929 (from 1909). All the sources I checked give that date. Do not change back without discussion and citation. --Brat32 05:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] collection
On bbc, I just heard about some clothing & jewelry named "Imelda Collection". Should this have a section, an article,...?
Does anyone have a guess as to how many more careers she would have,... or, even, how many she's already had? I am truly surprised about today's news. I'd never heard this previously. This persistence should be written about, somehow.
Thank You.
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