Template talk:Infobox Stadium

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Contents 1 Help 2 Dimensions 3 Seating Capacity 4 Do not remove coordinates 5 Record Crowd 6 Merger 7 Tenants 8 Nickname 9 Coordinate text change 10 Image and caption

[edit] Help

Hi, I'm trying to use this template at Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena but it not coming out as expected. Can I get a hand? ccwaters 21:09, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dimensions

Ok, somehow, somebody messed up the dimensions part of the template. Any use of the dimensions attribute messes up the page that is using it. For example, see Fenway Park and Wrigley Field.--NMajdan•talk 19:14, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seating Capacity

Seating capacity can bee added.

Also, can this field be center aligned? It looks odd when you have a large field just for this one attribute and it it left aligned with a lot of whitespace next to it (especially when the heading is center aligned).--NMajdan•talk 19:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I concur, the capacity and tenants fields should be centre-aligned. I made this change but someone changed it back ChrisTheDude 15:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. Other then the heading the entire template is left aligned, not center. Gateman1997 09:25, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I still think seating capacity should be center aligned. The number takes up such a small space in the row that having it left aligned just looks bad.↔NMajdan•talk 13:44, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I've seen some articles that use dated seating capacity (over multiple lines) showing how the venue has grown over time. These would probably look very bad centre aligned. -Nosilleg 19:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

In addition most of the infoboxes that use this template also contain both tennants and in baseball's case distances both of which would also look silly center aligned. This template is a completely left aligned piece. It makes little sense for one section that only occasionally looks good center aligned to be so. Gateman1997 22:03, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Do not remove coordinates

Please do not remove the coordinates setting from this infobox for the following reasons

1. This is the standar way that coordinates show up for other infoboxes.

2. The coordinates in the infobox work differenlt ythan the coordinates that (now) show up on the sports arena pages. They pull up better links.

3. Nobody cared about coordinates until i added this and nobody contacted me before adding the coordinates the other way. I have spent 5 days of my life working on this and strongly feel I should have been consulted.

Somebody has found a way to add coordinates to the sports arena pages without leaving a trail. If you know who it is and how they did it please contact me on my discussion page. --Dr who1975 01:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

• If I understand you correctly, the template you are looking for is Template:Coor title dms. PETCO Park has the template tag near the bottom of the page, next to the Template:MLB tag. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Record Crowd

I think Record Crowd would be a useful addition to this template.--Rulesfan 05:06, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Personally I think such info is better suited to the articlespace itself. Gateman1997 06:51, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merger

I'm not sure who suggested the merger but I seem to be the first person to discuss it... so:

• Merge - it is effectively the same infobox, just under a different name. Any anomalous fields can quite easily be rectified. DJR (T) 15:19, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge - per Djr_xi --Iliaskarim 04:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tenants

I was wondering why the Tenants field seems to be non-optional. Some clubs like FC Copenhagen own their own stadium and can hardly be described as tenants. Am I using it wrong or could this be corrected? MartinDK 19:12, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

A tenent is anyone who inhabits a stadium. I may own my house but I'm also a tenant. Gateman1997 04:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing that up for me. My confusion about this originates from the Leasehold estate article which seems to define a tenant as someone who leases a house or a piece of land but I understand that this is too narrow a definition of a tenant then. MartinDK 06:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Might want to change the header to "Home of" to be more clear to a worldwide audience. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 12:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

"Home of" is present progressive, and that does not allow for past tennants. Not only that but Home of is not propor grammar as it is missing an article for the stadium like "Home of the", which would not even work in all cases. Tennants works it just had a slight bit of confusion. --MJHankel 01:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Can't agree about the use of the word "tenant" for a club which owns the stadium playing there. "Tenant" implies they're paying rent to be there. "Home of", as suggested by Zzyzx11 seems good to me. (With "Former home of" etc. as necessary) - fchd 11:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nickname

Is directly below the image (if there is one) the best place to display the nickname? Having just visited the St. James' Park page, at first glance I thought "Sid James' Park" was vandalism. I'd prefer it if it was positioned properly in the infobox. - Dudesleeper 01:06, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually the nickname is supposed to be under the real name. Gateman1997 07:11, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

My mistake - that's where it is. Is there a particular reason it's not in amongst the other fields in the template? - Dudesleeper 12:51, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe it's because the "nicknames" are often as important and as used if not more so then the actual name of the venue's. For instance San Francisco's Monster Park is very rarely referred to as Monster Park but rather Candlestick Park. It's important that things like that are at the top so users searching for Candlestick or similar stadiums don't get confused. Gateman1997 23:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinate text change

Anyone have any objections to changing the display text from 'Global Coordinates' to 'Coordinates'? This would make it the same/similar to Airport Infobox, London station Infobox, Protected area Infobox, the coor title series of templates, etc.

It would also prevent this label from wrapping when there isn't an image in the infobox. (although the coords themselves will still wrap)

-Nosilleg 01:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I have now made this change. -Nosilleg 10:49, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image and caption

The test I just did was to weed out the annoying space between the image and caption. Done now. - Dudesleeper · Talk 00:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Ive noticed that recently (in IE at least) that all stadium captions seem to be appearing on the same line as the image, and not underneath. On checking the template it seems you recently made a change and this is probably the cause. I've reverted it but it has seemed to not have an effect. Can you please take a look at it --Cunners 19:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Further to this, I just edited an article which uses this infobox, and once saved, now appears correctly. Check Fenway Park which has not yet been edited to see what I mean about the text, hopefully fixed after the revert i did. --Cunners 19:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Just a question. Why are we captioning the images? I think it's implicitly assumed that the image is of the stadium the article and infobox are referring to. Gateman1997 06:23, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

What was going on? All the articles I looked at had the image duplicated and {{#if:| showing in the left of them. I reverted back a bit and that seems to have fixed it. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 11:08, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

That still seems to be happening in IE7. In IE6 the caption was to the right of the image, after the line break was removed by Dudesleeper. He has now put it back in and is making a bit of a mess of hundreds of pages which use this template. In IE7 it is still broken. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cunners (talk • contribs) 18:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

• If this continues to be a problem, I suggest we use the same code for the image and caption as a template like Template:Infobox actor (assuming it does not have this problem). Zzyzx11 (Talk) 01:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I've fixed it again now. As far as I can see there is no issue in either Firefox or IE, I don't know what the "annoying space between the image and caption" even refers to as both seem totally fine. There's no need to change it at all. --Cunners 01:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Oops, sorry - didn't know there was a thread about this. The "annoying space" I was referring to is visible here. - Dudesleeper · Talk 15:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

It looks like there was a problem with the Ibrox Stadium article itself. I believe I corrected it. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)