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I thought the information was relevant enough for me to use in my work, so I have recreated it.

Brian Boyko,
Editor, Network Performance Daily
www.networkperformancedaily.com
brian.boyko@netqos.com
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.129.167.114 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Original poster claims "Copied with permission from Pulver.com" -- I'm inclined to buy that, given this blog post. Granted, I'm not entirely sure about the article, but I'm fairly sure we don't need to worry about copyvio, on this one, just yet. Just my thought. Luna Santin 00:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

This is going to come up eventually, so here's my 2¢ worth ... my take on WP:BLP is fairly simple; there is an MOS for identifying name, date/place of birth, date of death, etc. ... this is "trivial" information to locate if they are notable.

In the case of this subject, all I see is a single article from BusinessWeek and a link to the subject's own website, pulver.com ... you mean that there has not been enough press coverage that someone can say when and where he was born? That's when I slap a {{importance}} tag on it and move on ... until some deletionist does a CSD or AFD, and I get all the flack for having raised a flag in the first place. <Sigh!>

Anywho, to me this is a no-brainer ... the guy's noteriety is undeniable, but there has to be a minimum threshold of WP:RS coverage to have more than a stub, and while name/place of birth should not be made minimum requirements for notability of living people, failure to be able to locate such information in WP:RS citations does imply a lack of notability.

The BusinessWeek article meets the requirement of "non-tivial reliable independent," but it is not "multiple," and the no self-reference rule should preclude the bio on his website from inclusion in the count towards "multiple."

While what he did to "make a name for himself" is undeniably notable, what we all "know" is not the same as what we can "verify," and in this case, the subject has not received enough coverage even from their own website to provide a simple fact like when or where were they born ... now, how notable does that make them?

That is all I have to say. --72.75.85.159 09:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

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