Talk:Jenna Bush

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Contents 1 Biography assessment rating comment 2 Inconsistancy 3 Third opinion 4 Bush twins 5 Pix 6 Misdemeanor

[edit] Biography assessment rating comment

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[edit] Inconsistancy

This article and its sister article on Barbara claim that one was born in Midland and the other in Dallas? True? Any sources for this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.162.0.45 (talk • contribs).

Actually, it is true that each of the Bush twins was born in a different city.

Then how exactly are they fraternal twins? The article certainly is in error somewhere. - 24.10.95.220 21:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Third opinion

See Talk:Barbara Pierce Bush -Amatulic 18:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

No. It is very simple. If Al Gore III's article is going to devoid of any and all references to his driving record, alcohol and drug abuse problems, and his inability to drive the speed limit without, and his inability to drive a car without alcohol in his system then the Bush twins will not be subject to biased treatment. It will be equal or not at all. As far as I can tell including those items, but not including the long, long, long record of Al Gore III--at least five, may be six, incidents, starting when he was 13 until just recently--is unequal and POV treatment. Wikipedia is supposed to be nonparisan and maintain a Neutral Point of View. Referring to their two SMALL run ins and not referring to his HUGE lengthy and detailed brushes with the law is clearly a POV pushing, Bio of Living person violation. I will revert the information until there is a concensus at Al Gore III. Also, this is a Bio of a Living Person and we are NOT going to defame anyone. Have a good day.--Getaway 22:08, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Please note that you do not own this article and must respect consensus and WP:POINT. Including this information is within the policy set in WP:BLP - these individuals are public figures whereas that is much more questionable in regard to Al Gore III, but that is not in discussion here. If you have an edit dispute regarding the Al Gore III article then discuss it there. Not here. You are interrupting Wikipedia to make a point in regard to your edit dispute in that article. Children of a president are far more notable than those of a vice president, this incident received quite a bit of media/press attention and was a notable event both in the media and for her public persona. --Strothra 17:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bush twins

Please note that threats of revert warring (and then partaking in it) violate various policies on Wikipedia. Notably, WP:3RR and WP:POINT. Please also note that you would be violating WP:CONSENSUS. Removal of well sourced information, which is not contrary to WP:BLP will be considered as vandalism and as such, all of these are likely to get you blocked.-Localzuk^(talk) 23:43, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Clearly I have never talked to you. Therefore, you need to assume "good faith." Based upon the above comments. I do not believe that you are. You never responded to the underlining issue involved. In the Al Gore III article, there are editors who have decided to keep out all references to Al Gore III's legal problems. Now, in the Bush twins articles there are editors that have decided to put this information in. It is blantantly POV. You never responded to that issue. You are only focusing on blocking me. That is NOT good faith. I would encourage you to follow the Wikipedia rules and discuss the underlining rule.--Getaway 16:42, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

The emerging consensus on the Gore III article is that the information should be merged with either Al Gore or some new article about the Gore family, since Al Gore III is not himself notable enough to support a standalone article. As such, the relevant determination here is Jenna Bush's notability, and if she is determined to not be notable, the information in this article should be merged to George W. Bush and Laura Bush. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 21:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pix

Can anyone find a better image of Jenna Bush? The one included here is blurred and pixelized. Its also not very flattering. kathzzzz® 04:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Images do not have to be "flattering," however, this image is of poor quality. There are other on wikimedia, you may wish to replace it with one of those. --Strothra 14:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Misdemeanor

The Bush Twins committed a misdemeanor. It is not a felony and it is not the end of the world and it should not define who they are. Now, I have been attempting to trim down the reference to the incident(s) which were almost six years ago. However, the incident keeps being moved to the top of the and given great emphasis. I can only believe that the reason for this is POV. It should not be the first thing mentioned about the twins. It should be a basically a footnote to the article. I have not attempted to remove the information entirely--as was the case in the Al Gore III article. I now agree that it should be in the article, but let's be real it has to be the first thing in the private life section?? No. That is pushing an agenda.--Getaway 17:59, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, the edit that Strotha is attempting to make is factually wrong. Jenna Bush was charged with two incidents. One was in April and the second was May. Strotha keeps changing the wording to read that they both ocurred in May, which they did not.--Getaway 18:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)