Talk:Joanie Laurer

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Contents 1 A man or woman 2 DVD cover to 1 Night in China 3 Hermaphrodite 4 Move On! 5 Six Figure Offer? 6 Sex tape 7 Lesbien 8 Very strong POV 9 Protection? 10 WWF/WWE Career 11 This article requires cleanup

[edit] A man or woman

By watching her porno movie, I believe she is actually a man (transsexual) with a micro penis pretending be a woman.

Her genital characteristics are more like those of someone affected by Progestin-induced virilisation.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.147.132.166 (talk • contribs).

[edit] DVD cover to 1 Night in China

I added the picture of the DVD cover 1 Night in China to this page. User:McPhail removed the image with the comment that the picture should only be used on the page of the video/dvd itself. I don't see why. What do others think about this? Ik.pas.aan 01:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

It seems needlessly inflammatory to include a pornographic video cover within an article about a person who was notable several years before the release of the video. McPhail 17:20, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

I disagree. The videotape/dvd itself may be controversial but she stars in it and its legally for sale. Therefore it is mentioned in the article about her and I don't see why this can't be illustrated by a picture of the cover of the dvd. Her being notable many years before the dvd was released is not relevant to this discussion in my opinion. There are many other pictures illustrating that part of her life. Ik.pas.aan 20:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm with McPhail. Aside from being unnecessary to show who the article's talking about, it needlessly skews the article toward one facet of her career. Laurer did not become famous because of the video. Bcarlson33 22:44, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Her worst question is when people ask her if she has ever bitchslapped her boyfriend.(She can os shes so strong.)

Still,many guys have a crush on her.

[edit] Hermaphrodite

Why has no one raised the possibility that she might have an intersex condition? She clearly is not a transexual, but she is obviously not a "normal" woman either. A google on her name with "intersex" turns up nothing useful, which leaves me confused. 70.20.179.75 00:05, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

She has a condition (can't remember what it is, I saw it on wikipedia though), where her clitorius is shaped like a small male penis. Atleast that is what it seems like. user: GZadmin 20:42, 27 January 2005 (UTC)

All of you must admit that she is a bit manly (not in the way that she is muscular) Lord revan 12:11, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

An enlarged clitoris is a common side effect of heavy steriod use by female bodybuilders.81.154.3.61 09:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

She's not a hermaphrodite. Move on with your lives. Bcarlson33 23:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

shouldn't we briefly mention her epic clit somewhere in the sex tape blurb? i'll put it in. (and if you take it down and make a fuss, Bcarlson33, that means that you aren't over it, not me.)

She isn't a hermaphrodite, but I still think that this is something that shoudln't be let go. Her steroid use has to be written and recognized.--[[User:Screwball23]Screwball23]] ^talk

At first when I saw that picture, I was convinced she was a Hermaphrodite. I have seen pictures before of Intersex people's genitalia, and it looked very similar. I read now that clitoris are very similar to penises, and that steroid use can enlarge them. I dunno what to think anymore, but that picture really freaks me out.

[edit] Move On!

Could we please get back to her life! So what if she's not fully female or male? She is a person just like everyone else! Sure she's made many mistakes but let her worry about them, not us. Let's move away from that disgusting sex tape. Thanks.

just because something bothers you does not mean that it is not worth mentioning. if she were in fact "not fully female" as you seem to think (she is, it's just a REALLY freaking huge clit), that would be very worth mentioning.

Okay you can mention it but it's stupid to keep mentioning it over and over and over again. Why don't you just find her and check for yourself. you obviously haven't seen masculine woman before. Just look at the other former or current female bodybuilders and tell me that they're all female. I meanlook at Nicole Bass, is she female/ I don't think so. Just get over it and go on with your life. Gosh.

[edit] Six Figure Offer?

What is the source of this news? I've never read it anywhere else and it could simply be a claim rather than an actual offer. Bcarlson33 22:44, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sex tape

"In 2004, it was claimed that Laurer and Waltman made a sex tape during a vacation to China earlier that year but Laurer did not go to China with Waltman."

This is a bit confusing. It says Laurer did not go to China with Waltman but clearly she did since they made the sex tape. Is it trying to say she claimed she didn't go or what? I'm rather confused and someome needs to correct. Nil Einne 11:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Joanie did not go to China with Laurer. To get around the WWE's ownership of the "Chyna" name, they called the tape "One Night in China" as a double entendre. That way, the name "China/Chyna" could be used without violating the WWE copyright. Laurer went to China and filmed a few scenes of him walking around the country and visiting landmarks, and that was edited into the sex tape footage to justify the use of the word "China" in the title of the movie.

"However, it later became clear Laurer wanted nothing to do with the material. To this date she has never accepted money from the sale of the sex tape. However, in the 2005 documentary 101 Reasons Not to Be a Pro Wrestler, she admitted that filming the tape was her idea and said that she and Waltman wanted "to share" their love life with everyone. She also stated during the interview that she was proud of the tape."

This part also seems confusing. Firstly it makes it sound like it is still clear that Laurer wanted nothing to do with this date and states explicitly that she has not accepted any money. Then it goes on to say that she was proud of the tape and admitted she basically wanted the tape to be out there for everyone to see. These seem contradictory. I suspect she after initially claiming she was going to accept royalties she later made it seem liek she hated the tape and wanted nothing to do with it nor to get any money from it but then later she finally claimed that it had been her plan all along. If I'm correct then it needs to be update to reflected that these are various claims made or implied by her at various stages rather then making it appear any of them are implicitly true. Nil Einne 11:57, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I edited out the line about Laurer possibly returning to the WWE, since there's no reason to believe she will. Mr. Papaya 02:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

And why isnn't there?She's a grown woman, maybe she's put her differences aside with the WWE for a chance at a better career.User:Killswitch Engage

[edit] Lesbien

Hey i went on this website and it said that chyna was a lesbien is this true?Also it stated that she has had a tatoo removed from her penus.

[edit] Very strong POV

I edited this page to make it more neutral, as it was previously very bias towards Joanie. It claimed that basically Séan Waltman was a woman-beater and she was totally innocent, depite their being claims from both sides of domestic abuse and the fact that Joanie Laurer is the only one of the two to have been arrested and obtain a criminal record due to her domestic violence towards Mr. Waltman.

[edit] Protection?

Should this page be protected? There is a lot of vandalism from new and/or unregistered visitors. Can somebody take care of that, I'm stupid when it comes to most things on wikipedia, so I'm not entirely sure how to go about it. Thanks. Nikki311 05:08, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WWF/WWE Career

Why does this section seem to intertwine both factual information about her career and the story lines of the show she appeared on? This should be sperated in to 2 sections covering the factual account and story lines seperately. As is it almost tries to present the story line as events that took place in realilty.Macutty 03:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

"Chyna is one of only two wom2en to have an undefeated reign as WWE Women's Champion, along with Trish Stratus. Chyna is, however, the only one to remain undefeated and defended her title until she left the WWF."

Alundra Blaze did it, when she left WWE for WCW and dumped the Women's Championship in a bin on WCW television. Chyna is one of three women as far as I know.

But Alundra Blaze had lost her title previously, as had Trish Stratus. However Chyna was never defeated.

Her name was Debra Miceli(madusa) not alundra blaze. She dumped it in a bin when she left for wcw. Sable is one of them too. A tournament was needed because she dissapeared when she was champion

[edit] This article requires cleanup

There were profane comments in the main article. This should be edited and cleaned up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.58.7.109 (talk) 23:21, 18 March 2007 (UTC).