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[edit] Trivia section
Trivia sections on Wikipedia are considered very bad form. All imformation within this section should be dispersed to apropriate places within the article. --The_stuart 18:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
There were more male MPs named John than there were women MPs as in the United Kingdom until the 1997 general election that brought Tony Blair and New Labour to power.
- John the Apostle, to whom the Gospel of John is attributed
- John the Evangelist, traditionally identified with the apostle, and to whom the books 1 John, 2 John, 3 John, and Revelation are attributed.
Isn't this kind of backwards? Doesn't "John the Evangelist" mean "John the Gospel-writer"? Josh Cherry 16:03, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Presidents and PMs?
Do the lists of Presidents and Prime Ministers really belong here? Previously this page was only for people who were known only as John, as Kings, Saints, and Popes are, as they use no last name, but adding guys like Kennedy and Major opens it up to anyone with the first name John, which is just impossibly unmanagable. Are the US and UK so special that only they should get this treatment? I think they should be deleted. We could spend the rest of our natural lives adding people named "John" to this list. -R. fiend 04:48, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I went ahead and removed them. -R. fiend 09:00, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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- Though I agree that making a list of all the Johns would never be completed, though many other disambiguation pages of first names have a list of people with that first name, could you please explain why there shouldn't be an ever-added list of Johns? Granted, I am predjudiced for Johns. omnijohn 03:47, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Gospel Title: "according to"
The Greek – in the case of all four Gospel accounts – has kata, Latin secondo, both meaning according to. In other words [The] Good News according to .... There is a lively discussion as to the genre of the Gospels, hence their precise title, while not original but very early all the same, may be considered significant. (It is easy to see, why one often encounters of, even in scholarly writings ... it is 9 characters and 1 space shorter, and rolls better off the tongue.)
Portress 03:18, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Translations
I am somewhat confused about the translations. Among Danish translations Jens would be exactly as relevant as Hans. Johannes, Johan, Jan, Jon, Ivan and John are more or less common Danish names too. The popes and the biblical persons are called Johannes.
I believe that you can find similar tendencies in several other languages.
--Troels Nybo 10:13, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Biblical references
This section is specifically intended to make clear the difference between Bible references such as 'John 3:16' and 'I John 3:23', which some people may not realize are from different books of the Bible. It is not intended to distinguish John the Apostle and John the Baptist, which is done under Saints. Myopic Bookworm 10:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reverting
I know some of you have been reverting back. But the way I have it makes it look more organized because having those few John's in "other" make it look dis-organized when there are tons of other John's that could be added. If you are not going to add them then don't revert. Mr. C.C. (talk <-> contribs <-> review me) 21:22, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Jean
Jean is the French way of spelling John and it is even pronounced like John. Jean Chretien (former Canadian prime minister) first name was pronounced like John as I said. Should this be included in the article? Mr. C.C. (talk <-> contribs <-> review me) 21:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. I also put a link at the top of the page that says:
See Jean for persons whose names are Jean but can be pronounced John. Mr. C.C. 05:59, 7 July 2006 (UTC) (talk <-> contribs <-> review me)
- The problem with that is that Jean is not pronounced exactly the same as John. Mo-Al 03:14, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Names removed
I'm removing these entries as they are simply redirect pages back here. Some inspired person may want to change the redirects into stubs.
- John of Falkenberg, Catholic author
- John of Fécamp, Ascetic writer
- John of Montesono, Catholic theologian
- John of Roquetaillade (de Rupescissa), alchemist
- I deleted the redirects, as there was certainly no reason for them to redirect back here. Hopefully this will encourage someone to write articles on them. -R. fiend 01:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
