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[edit] Professor?
The opening statement claims that he is a "former professor of African Studies." His biography section, however, mentions nothing about him ever being a professor (only an associate professor.) Was he a professor or not?202.136.105.65 08:16, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] NCState Status?
The article currently ambiguously identifies KK as a "visiting professor" at NCSU. His actual NCSU title was "affiliated faculty member", hired on an as-needed basis for a couple years. He was not awarded NCSU professor status, "visiting" or otherwise, and wasn't re-employed after The Speech. His apparent professorship was at St. Augustine's College in Raleigh NC, but he's no longer employed there. Since the page is protected, some registered Wikiite may want to clear that up. Change the first line to "...taught African Studies at North Carolina State where he was an affiliated...", etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.74.205.233 (talk) 07:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] NPOV?
I inserted a "NPOV" template into the article. It's an extremely one-sided article, as can be judged by the lead: "Advocate for racial genocide." He may be an asshole, but this is no way to make a Wikipedia article about him. --("tphcm") 208.51.23.195 03:56, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- Give me a break. He said, "we have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet to solve this problem." That's advocating genocide. Descendall 01:05, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
But it is true. He wants to exterminate white people from the planet.
There's no denying the guy said the things he did at Howard. I suppose next we should put a flag on Adolf Hitler's article because he, too, advocated genocide.
- The flag is there because this article only exists to portray him as an advocate of racial genocide. If this was a NPOV article, it would discuss other aspects of him. Even Hitler's article does this by discussing his climb to power, his personal life, etc. This article is just a collection of quotes, from one speech, making him out as an anti-white racist. He may be an anti-white racist, but that's not all he is. It's biased, and there's no denying it.
That may be true, but maybe not much is known about his personal life.
The only reason this article exists is the only reason we would care to know about this person in the first place. If he had not made those silly, inflamatory and hateful remarks, we would neither have cause nor interest to even know his name. To compare him to Hitler is to give him a claim to greater (infamy)fame than he deserves. Hitler deserves in-depth analysis because of the scope of his impact on world event. This individual has accomplished nothing but exercising his free speech. I don't think there is any valid reason to challenge the neutrality of this article, and the flag should be removed. 68.211.27.95 07:41, 13 December 2005 (UTC)jt
The beauty is, we have the freedom to catalog possibly mentally ill people as well. If this guy isn't just grandstanding for the media and actually believes what he speaks, he's definitely got some issues. Pull the flag, the article isn't biased that I can see. I've found the same information on many other sites on the net, as silly as it is. The man definitely gives you a chuckle! He may advocate genocide, but he's obviously in no position to make that happen.
Only Blacks get handed this kid-glove treatment. In this, as always, reverse the races. Whites who are deemed racists haven't said anything close to this guy. Why is this flagged?
the only non NPOV part is the "strong african warrior" description. he sounds kinda...american to me.
I agree the the "strong african warrior" part should be removed, as well as the category link at the bottom for "idiot" in order for this article to be more neutral. EricHarvey 19:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism
Deleted some vandalism that had been added to the article, along the lines of common derogitory language referring to afro-americans. Might wanna lock this bad boy for a while so no one does likewise, anything to do with someone with famous genocidal views is going to attract negative attention like this. -Spoonman.au, 8-Dec-2006. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spoonman.au (talk • contribs) 07:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Tagged for Cleanup
This is an encyclopedia article, not an editorial article. Please leave the emotions out of it. Present the facts and leave it at that. --Grocer 22:33, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Haha. How many white-supremacist groups are there whoch advocate the extirmination of the black race. Com[ared to them, the inverse argument is quantitatively microscopic. Please know what you are talking about before you make reverse-discrimination claims.
SO that makes it ok, Huh... I think you are the one who need to know what they are talking about. Osama, Hitler, Manson, etc... were all harmless until they gathered a following.
i agree without believers and followers these people would be nothing
This guy is a hard core racist and should be labeled as such. His views are exactly the same as the neo nazis except for the target race. His support for genocide places him in the same camp as Hitler.
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- This is not a blog. This should be tagged for bias. --Phopojijo
reverse-discrimination? no such thing - It's either discriminatory or not...
"This is not a blog. This should be tagged for bias. --Phopojijo" - What are you talking about? This should definetly not be tagged for bias. 85.82.195.131 23:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] ?
This is racism against the suppposed racists. Two interesting things I'd like to point at, while coincidentially having watched the movie clip of his speech. He states that "white people are out to kill you" and "they also try to make money in the process of killing you". Two things: first a somewhat grotesque fact is that during his speech someone can be seen on the left side, his right side. Isn't he afraid? Secondly I noticed that during the video, an info box is shown which states that he is the owner of Blacknificant Books. My somewhat sharp question here would be, if that isn't making money out of someone's bethreatened death? So if he's not afraid of the person behind his back and he's making money with his books... isn't he actually doing exactly what he tries to make people believe, a "white" person does? LIllIi 23:36, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Speculative
This Prof. Kambon clearly has some issues and it can be plainly seen when watching the video that he is under some kind of stress. What's more, I think that as can be seen from his picture in the article which has a strange likeness to drawings of Albrecht Dürer, the northern Renaissance painter, woodcarver, and draughtsman, and of the famous Italian painter Raffael, Prof. Kambon may actually be trying to emulate those giants of European civilization, or at least to bask somewhat in their glory.
This page has been vandalized and the picture listed is not a real picture of the Dr.
[edit] Mr Kambon
Please do the world a huge favor and jump off the tallest building you can find. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.192.16.165 (talk) 23:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Use of Honorific
It is inappropriate to refer to this person as 'Dr' at any place in this article. Is it wholly unproven that this person holds any degree that justifies its use. We cannot start calling everyone in the Wikipedia Doctor simply because they wake up one day and decide they have four PhD from the school of outer space wisdom.
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- Not only that it is unproven he holds PhD. He even does not claim to hold it. He simply uses DR. as part of his name, just like Dr. Dre or Dr. Alban. Moreover, encyclopedias do not refer people as "Dr." in every sentence even if it is proven they hold a PhD. 164.8.4.123 21:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
He DOES hold a PhD, whether its from one of those PhD mills, were anyone can buy one, or not, I dont know, but he DOES. He used to be a psychology professor. He holds a number of other degrees too, yes, believe it or not, hes a well-educated man - all though his formulations like "in my estimation the only conclusion i have come to" - are pretty bad and makes him seem unintelligent. He has to estimate what conclusion he has come to? Well, whatever. Just a degree doesnt mean hes intelligent or anything.. hes just one of those self-victimising "civil rights leaders" pumping hate into the blood of african-americans that probably just want the best for their people. Fuck if he has a PhD or not, this man should go to jail, and hell burn in hell if there is one. 85.82.195.131 23:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Real Name
His real name is Leroy Jefferson. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.89.14.23 (talk) 10:47, 30 December 2006 (UTC).
I have a question ?
Why he is not in jail ? Do you americans can say things like that without being sent to jail ?
[edit] Racist ethnocentric should be added/kept
It should be mentioned that Proffesor Kamau Kambon is a racist ethnocentric.
As Wikipedia is supposed to have a NPOV we have the obligation to tell it how it is, and not be worried about using the word racist where it perfectly fits.
Whether or not you think racism is wrong, Kamau Kambon is a racist, and supports a racist agenda, it should be duly noted in any encyclopaedia article.
How the term "racist" or "ethnocentric" is taken by the reader is up to the reader's own prejudices. Wikipedia should not be motivated by prejudice. PyroGamer 12:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
