Talk:Kannazuki no Miko
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[edit] Vandalism?
I note someone has removed the seiyuu and voice actor information for the mikos. I will be restoring that information now. Let's please keep an eye on the page so this kind of vandalism (?) doesn't occur again, unless there was a valid reason for its removal. Art is life and life is an art. 06:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see any valid reason. The editor just doesn't understand the standard {{Nihongo}} template when displaying Japanese names on the Englih Wikipedia. --(十八|talk) 03:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- The really odd thing is that whoever it is removed only the mikos' info and left that of the Orochi in place ... Art is life and life is an art. 06:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Clarify
"These themes are exacerbated in the manga version where events that are implied in the anime are made explicit (sometimes graphically so) in the former."
I think I have a very good idea of what this means, but nobody who hasn't seen the show is going to have a clue what that's implying. I'm not going to edit that, since I havent read the manga, but I think it'd be helpful-- and wouldn't really cause clutter or the such-- to elaborate on what kind of "events that are implied" are shown. It could mean a whole lot of things to someone unfamiliar with the anime, and I think that definitely sounds like something imporant enough about the manga to explain a bit more clearly. --Chris Love 22:25, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
- I did not want to explain, because it is such a major plot point in both, though far more graphic in the manga version (it is believed that is one reason why the manga license has yet to be picked up). There are probably others we could give as an example (Chikane is far more ruthless in the manga than the anime), but the instance you're probably thinking of is the one most people would as well, IMHO.--Mitsukai 03:57, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
- That's very interesting. How much do you know about the manga... enough to warrant the creation of section comparing it with the anime? It is a huge plot point, but I think a section marked off by a spoiler tag on the subject would be quite informative, especially to the "most people" who have only seen the anime and would only think of one thing after reading that sentence. --Chris Love 14:40, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
- I'll see what I can do. I no longer have my copies of the manga (lent them to a friend and he lost them all >_<), but hopefully I can find something out there.--Mitsukai 18:25, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
- That's very interesting. How much do you know about the manga... enough to warrant the creation of section comparing it with the anime? It is a huge plot point, but I think a section marked off by a spoiler tag on the subject would be quite informative, especially to the "most people" who have only seen the anime and would only think of one thing after reading that sentence. --Chris Love 14:40, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] 2nd Neck Errata
I doubt The Second Neck has seen World War II. Planes that destroyed its city were most likely Tu-95 Bear. I believe it was some war that only exists in the anime. Of course, I may be wrong.
- The manga hints strongly (also without telling) that it is WWII. This might be a graphic discrepancy that should be addressed in the differences between manga and anime.--Mitsukai 20:18, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] clarify
The way it's written, the comparison between this show and Marimite is a little over stated. There are a lot of shows where the lesbian relationships are lightly implied or entirely imagined by fans. Mariasama ga miteru characters, I think, never kiss. There are actually fans that, despite the lilies and everything, don't see any lesbian undertones to that show. In Kannazuki no Miko, you'd have to be actually out of your head to not undertstand what's going on. Girls kiss each other on this show, and the description makes it sound like it's implied or imaginary the way it is in other shows. 66.41.66.213 04:13, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
By the way, I do wonder if people actually think this show has anything similar with Yami to Bōshi to Hon no Tabibito either? After all, Chikane and Himeko really do not resemble Hazuki and Hatsumi at all. Both their character designs and personalities are significantly different, from what I can tell. And not even the hairstyle matches. Rexas 18:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- The characters are similar enough, though, that the connection has been made some time past. Also, I don't believe it was said that the two shows were the same or extremely similar, just that it was thought that Kannazuki no Miko was the spiritual successor to Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito. The theme of a dark-haired, tall bishoujo going to extremes for her love of a blond while denying herself is a fairly strong constant between the two series, anyway.
Art is life and life is an art. 20:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
On that note, even My-HiME could be considered to be a "spiritual successor" to both these shows. Well, whatever, I was just wondering as the article claimed the characters to be "almost exactly same looking", which is why I had to ask if that's all the connection there was. Suppose I understand a little better now. Rexas 10:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Translation of title
Is there any specific reason why this series' title has been translated as "Shrine Maidens of the Godless Moon"? According to Japanese calendar, 神無月 is the traditional name for October. Obviously there is no exact English equivalent for 巫女, but what about "October Priestess"? Sounds a lot more natural to me.
I guessed I should ask it here first, because I am in no way familiar with this anime, and maybe I'm missing something :-) Robin F. 11:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- I originally wrote the article, so I'll address this point-by-point: It's supposed to be "Godless Month", not "Godless Moon." I don't know when that got changed, but there is no good reason why that should be there. I'll change it right now. As to why the word is translated literally rather than simply as October-- I was originally just following the precedent set by other translators, although I'll look up their motivations later-- I would say it's because indeed there is no English equivalent, and "godless month" has a thematic meaning in regards to the whole show. I would imagine that's why they picked October, and as stupid as the translated name sounds, you lose a lot of meaning by just calling it October. It's the same reason why using miko and priestess interchangably doesn't fly.
- It doesn't really need to sound natural in this case, either. The show title, even in the North American release, remains untranslated, and while that would be a good line of thinking for giving the show an English title, "Shrine Maidens of the Godless Month" is a much more useful translation in the context of an encyclopedia article. --Chris Love 17:41, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
First, 神無月 is not October because the former is in the lunar calendar, which does not correspond strictly to solar months. Second, the name is significant, as it's the godlessness that allows Orochi to run loose, more or less. Putting a link to an article about 神無月 would be useful, but changing it to October would be not. mathrick 23:30, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Flashbacks?
Can someone tell me when all the flashbacks take place?
- For the Orochi, it's mostly during one of the last episodes, I think number 10, when Orochi shows Chikane what motivated Rehto, Korona, Nekoko, Miyako and Girochi to become so disappointed with the world. The Souma-Tsubasa flashbacks take place earlier, as do the various Himeko-Chikane flashbacks. Art is life and life is an art. 07:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Manga ending
So ... can anyone confirm the ending of the manga is what has just been added on the main page? I've never even clapped eyes on it, so I don't know. Art is life and life is an art. 21:06, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
