Talk:LACMTA Red Line

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Honestly, there HAS gotta be a better way to list bus connections. Putting it in the table would bloat things up. Pacific Coast Highway 04:33, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

The Wikipedia is WP:NOT a bus service directory. The bus connections are unnecessary and unencyclopedic. BlankVerse 13:37, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

I concur, Bus connections can be found on the Metro web site. Further bus routes change every six months as Metro introduces and eliminates new routes.

The chart itself is rediculous. The Word "red" is repeated all the way down the colunm. The reader knows it's the Red Line. That is what the article he or she is reading.

Further, It is not necessary to have a seperate article on each individual station. These articles are all stubs. --SAUNDERS 22:54, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

You are swimming against the tide on station stubs—they are just as bad as the innumerable schools stubs on the Wikipedia. You'll find that most New York and London stations have articles, and even if Californians don't care not one whit about Metro stations, rail and subways fans from elsewhere will continue to create them. My personal opinion is that the only Southern California station that needs its own article is Union Station (Los Angeles). I've thought about doing a preemptive strike and creating all the currently red-linked stations stubs as redirects to the appropropriate LACMTA line, but have so far been too lazy. BlankVerse 12:40, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Westward expansion stopped

There is obvious bias in the "Westward expansion stopped" section.

It would be nice of you to elucidate and/or correct them. --Jfruh (talk) 22:40, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Line and Line 802

These are NOT the official names of the Red Line. Metro Red Line is the "official" name used for all public reference to the line. Line 802 is used by the scheduling department for it's database listing all Bus and Rail lines. I am not even familiar with the A line's use within the Agency, although I have heard the term before. Don't confuse people unfamiliar with Metro Red Line. Gohiking 20:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Turnstiles (Removed from article)

Transit officials are considering the addition of turnstiles, station attendants and officers, thereby eliminating the barrier-free honor system which was designed to increase ridership in Los Angeles' car oriented culture. Currently, L.A. County Sheriff officers and fare inspectors patrol the entire Metro Rail system by riding trains to different stations. This can leave many stations unattended for extended periods of time. Given budget constraints and many other ongoing transit projects, these additions may not be implemented for some time with the estimated cost of installing turnstiles between $50 and $150 million and hiring of station attendants at $24 million annually.^[1]

The primary reason I removed this section is that turnstiles were considered since day one of construction for the Metro Red Line and were included in the original station drawings. However, with fare evasion being less than 3% of all riders, it was decided that it was not necessary and gave Los Angeles a more "open" feeling at the stations. Another reason is that the argument that turnstiles provide greater security is a joke. A terrorist with or without a ticket can enter the station unchecked and a turnstile has no benefit in providing any greater security for the riding public. The last thing that is obviously misstated is that although some fare enforcement and LASD do ride the trains, the majority are stationed at a stationary location such as Union Station and monitor that location throughout their shift, driving a squad car to an incident at another station if called. Gohiking 06:44, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

The gross errors aside, if it's published, I don't see a good reason to exculde the information. Pacific Coast Highway ^{{X's • and O's!}} 07:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Too much focus (and article space) on current events, especially when they are speculative at best makes the article unbalanced and not WP:NPOV. If the turnstile plan is approved in the future (and I am certain it will not be), then an addition to the article is merited. There are hundreds of other LA Times articles regarding the Red Line that are not included in the article, and this is just one more. Gohiking 18:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with PCH. Even though it is a current event, it is valid discussion and could dramatically change the way fare media is issued for Metro Rail. Also, the article space that it would take is only one paragraph. If the incident is mentioned in the first place, then the follow up to it should be mentioned as well. Stephen12786 01:33, 15 February 2007 (UTC)