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If a starting-point is wanted, the 3rd century Imperial decree that bound certain agricultural wokers to their villa is the origin of "villein". The villas of Sicily, Magna Graecia, Provence, or Aquitaine, and the big ecclesiastical manors that originated in similar villas turned over to abbots, like Monte Cassino... Wetman 21:48, 10 May 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Scottish feudal law

This information looked as though it should fit under Feudal land tenure, but that redirects here and it doesn't seem to fit: it's going under History of Scotland and slightly expanded under Scots law, think a version belongs here? (IANAL).. The feudal system lingered on in Scots law on land ownership, so that a landowner still had obligations to a feudal superior including payment of feu duty. In 1974 legislation began a process of redeeming feuduties so that most of these payments were ended, but it was only with the attention of the Scottish Parliament that a series of acts were passed, the first in 2000, for The Abolition of Feudal Tenure on November 28, 2004.....dave souza 19:02, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] "Land tenure" article

How does this article relate to the land tenure article? Is there much room for overlap? This article seems mostly to describe the system and conditions of rural economy in medieval Europe. By contrast, the land tenure article should be mostly about the legal and ideological aspects of the concept of tenure itself. Also, I noticed that feudal land tenure redirects to this article rather than land tenure. Maybe it would be better linked to land tenure. --Yu Ninjie 23:52, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've changed that redirect. I'm not sure if land tenure and manorialism ought to be merged or remain separate (though your rationale for the separation of topics seems convincing), but feudal land tenure is clearly better redirected to the former. -- Rbellin|Talk 18:45, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] See Also

If this isn't the best construct to make the association with Seigneurial system, feel free to improve. There seemed to be a few articles linked to this one that were outside of the time period discussed and associated with France or New France, especially linked to seigneur and variants, for example, Joseph Edouard Cauchon. I probably missed some. Also, which redirects go here and which to the other article appears somewhat arbitrary. -Big_Iron 09:39, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Feudalism vs. Manoralism

What's the difference between feudalism and manoralism? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Texas Drama King (talkcontribs) .

It's a difficult question but basically what happened is by the middle of the 20th C there was a standard version of what feudalism was that only included the nobility. Manorialism expands feudalism to include not on the nobility but the peasants as well. This is briefly discussed in the feudalism article. -- Stbalbach 16:45, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

The image is fantastic, but a picture - perhaps an overhead helicopter shot - of an existing French or English manor home, with its various sub plots would paint a better picture for your students. Something like this perhaps http://museum.man.ac.uk/images/Higham4.jpg Unsigned, Mar 6, 23:15

Thanks for the link. We can't use it due to copyright problems, unless you are authorized to release it under a license suitable for Wikipedia. -- Stbalbach 17:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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