Just A Thought
We spend our days debating over the foibles in science or quagmires of politics, and yet not one moment is spent writing about our own backyards. Spend some time now and again to write about your hometown, country, or area of interest. In doing such, together we can scratch the surface of all human knowledge. –Jay
A Brief Bio
Jay is a frequent contributor and administrator for the English Wikipedia. He joined the project in October 2005 and became an administrator in April 2006. Jay hails from Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Milestones
- Edit 1 –17:29, October 25, 2005 (UTC) Image:Brampton 01508.jpg
- Edit 1000 – 05:02, December 10, 2005 (UTC) User talk:24.66.94.140
- Edit 2000 – 02:57, January 24, 2006 (UTC) Eglinton—Lawrence
- Edit 3000 – 19:16, March 11, 2006 (UTC) Truth
- Edit 4000 – 23:10, May 2, 2006 (UTC) User talk:Master Jay
- Edit 5000 – 00:50, September 12, 2006 (UTC) Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism
Commentary
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Essjay
Submitted 19:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- For starters, I don't know how many people actually read my commentary, furthermore, by now I am sure we've all had our spiel about the Essjay controversy. Here is my take on the matter.
- When I heard about what had transpired, it took me by surprise. I, like many others, believed what I had read on his userpage. It is unfortunate that the identity he created got the best of him, and in an ironic twist, ultimately led to his demise and exposure of identity. I am not defending what he did, but I can understand why he did it. I imagine that one thing led to another, and it was too late to turn back. He eventually did come out, but the damage was already done.
- I am not sure if this has happened before on Wikipedia, but certainly the fallout is something we've never seen before. Any controversy involving any prominent member of the community is sure to create a buzz, however, what is unexpected is the international press that this has attained. It is not like he was a quack neurosurgeon, who could have potentially killed someone! Nonetheless, this case has set a precedent when it comes to fabricating details about who you really are. I suspect a few others may have to come clean in light of the recent events.
- I will always remember Essjay for the great effort and time he put into Wikipedia. In my brief conversations with him, I always found him to be approachable, respectable, and overall a good fellow to deal with. He was always there to answer questions, and I appreciate the tremendous work that he put into the project.
- In my opinion, credentials are important, especially when asked upon to weigh in on an article that needs expert advice. However, the question remaining from all of this is whether or not credentials made a difference in terms of his various promotions. Would a self-admitted college dropout gain prominence and recognition in a large community? Who knows.
Enough with the tags!
Submitted 05:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
- There is a growing problem with taggers – users who add large box tags to the beginning of articles, hoping that some poor soul will come along and fix it, leaving a mess in the meantime. It just doesn't work – use the talk page instead. If the article has significant flaws, whether it be missing citations, style, and so forth, initiate a discussion on the talk page, and work it out from there. Adding a large tag that takes up a third of the screen reduces article neatness, adds quite a bit to the server load (when multiplied by a few hundred thousand), and it won't get anything done. If an article requires improvement, do what you can do to fix it, then perhaps ask for assistance on the talk page – please do not continue to add a huge tag and expect the problems to go away. Its time to stop passing the buck people!
- Tags, when used accordingly, are effective in directing help to where it's needed most. All I am saying is that the specifics of what needs to be done can be placed on the talk page instead. If anything, we'd be better off placing the tags on the talk page in the first place, which would keep the article free of clutter, while still keeping it marked for improvement.
- The same thing goes for protection tags – when a user clicks "edit," the large disclaimer box in the edit window is pretty self explanatory. An eyesore of a protected tag placed at the top of an article, especially when it is popular, adds on to the problem. People aren't stupid - of course when it says (after clicking the edit button) "you are unable to edit because the page is protected..." you know you're unable to edit. An annoying tag at the top of the article really isn't necessary.
- Enough with the tags!
On Article quality etc
Submitted 15:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- When browsing through the unpopular articles, I find that some are written pretty well, and then others are written sounding like your next door neighbour is talking to you. What I'm trying to get at here is that the less popular an article is, the more likely it is going to need a {{wikify}} tag on it. I never thought that I'd have to say this, but here it goes: not every single reader knows where New Jersey is. (all apologies to anyone from New Jersey) If you're editing an article, remember that it will be read by everyone around the world, not just your friends across the street. My reference to New Jersey is to illustrate that details about a person or place should have country information; use words like United States, American, or even USA, for example. Same applies to other people or places in different countries. Why am I very concerned you might ask? Well, until recently, I had no clue where West Yorkshire was. However, I know where the United Kingdom is - if an article said that someone was from West Yorkshire, and omitted important country details, it would be confusing. Now I know this isn't the case for all articles, however, the ones that are fairly unpopular are often neglected, and lack basic details.
- Not everyone here has a degree in English. In fact, what makes Wikipedia great is that anyone with the will to edit an article is able to, and I encourage it. Nonetheless, I notice that there is a wide gap between good articles and crummy stubs in terms of prose. As I said before, I am not worried about featured articles and other ones of good quality. I am only worried about the other one million or so. I won't provide specific examples, however, in recent weeks, I have found myself repairing leads, amongst other things, to improve a handful of articles. I find that some articles are very poorly written, just in terms of flow and style. I also find that others are written by PhD students, who forget that not everyone reading the article has a degree in chemical engineering. I personally like the way How Stuff Works is written, because it gives a full picture of the subject in question, even the reader is a novice. Those of you out there that edit to achieve so-so quality should be aiming for an FA. For others, who include every last technical detail, remember that not everyone will understand it.
On Featured Articles etc
Submitted 18:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- I believe that FA's are a good thing. However, I also believe that the process in which we choose featured articles is in desperate need of an overhaul. Highly visible articles, i.e. articles that appear within the first page of a search engine query, should be our finest work. Period. An organized drive should be made to achieve the following: There are only seven continents - there should be a drive to make them featured; Every country should be a featured article; Every capital city of every country should be a featured article. On the one hand, there are well written articles that happen to be featured, and then there are articles, maybe not so well written, that need to be of featured article quality.
- The purpose of an article: Is the article on a recent news event, or a historical event. Is the article on a person, a place, or a thing? Some articles are designed to educate and inform, while others serve as a sespool for heated debate. Most of us know who George W. Bush is, so is there really a need to fight over how you define him? Besides the point, an article on a shopping mall should have directions, an article on a website should have links. What makes Wikipedia different from a paper encyclopedia is that at any time, we can go in and change it. So nothing is really set in stone.
- The purpose of a featured article: To highlight our best work. Wikipedia is no Britannica , however, it is a great success when everyday contributors can put together an informative, quality, piece of work. To turn one sentence, that has a few errors in it, to a quality article, even better than Britannica , is a good thing.
- The rush to make an article featured is problematic. Take the Microsoft article for example – it had a "wordy" lead, which was only corrected after it was featured and on the main page.
- Standards: Every living person article should have a lead that is identical. Name (birthday in place) is a(n) [country] [what they are].
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