Talk:Michael Newdow
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Crackpot. The guy's an ordained minister. Yes, it's a paper church, but still. If he's such a strong athiest, why'd he go and become an ordained minister? —User:ACupOfCoffee@ 08:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- I think it's because the Universal Life Church is such a strong proponent of freedom of religion. I'm guessing maybe the irony has something to do with it too. --Maxamegalon2000 14:27, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think it is NPOV to call him crackpot. I find the irony quite interesting, as it is analogous to religious persons trying to infiltrate secular institutions, like science. PHF 02:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Crackpot? This is an ignorant statement. Being a minister has nothing to do with whether you believe in a god or not. For example, Unitarians could be considered Atheists since they do not require one to believe in a god.Mr. Newdow is a lawyer and understands the PR value of aping the substance of traditional religious institutions. Some in the Atheist community advocate making Atheism a religion in order to gain equal government status to that of other philosophical organizations.Aredant 16:24, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Titles
Newdow's doctorate and ordination both appear to come from the Universal Life Church, which will grant them to anyone no questions asked. [1] I don't think it's appropriate to use the titles "Rev." and "Dr." under those circumstances. Consequently I am removing them. (I'll grant that someone could be referred to as "Rev." if they were an actual Universal Life Church member, but as far as I can tell Newdow doesn't actually participate in the ULC in any way.) Elliotreed 04:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- Oops! Newdow appears to be an actual medical doctor. [2] So that one I will grant. Elliotreed 04:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- I don't feel strongly enough to argue against removing the "Rev." title on my own, as long as it's mentioned in that first paragraph. --Maxamegalon2000 04:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
