Talk:Middle school
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I'm not from the US or North America, and after reading this article, I have no idea what age ranges middle school may involve (besides the extreme limits of “not older than high school” and “not younger than grade school.”) This article needs that information. 89.62.97.47 15:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Article should be split.
CowboyJMB: I believe that this article should be split in two, as the Junior High School and Middle schools are clearly different systems. (comment by 69.242.11.15, 2 September, 2005)
- It appears from the article that, it a lot of the world, they're essentially interchangable. I think it makes the most sense to have Junior high school redirect here, unless someone has some arguments for separating them. -GTBacchus 02:58, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Polish Gimazjum (Gymnasium) is a type of middle school. exe 09:24, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
The 'United States' section makes my head hurt when I try to read it.
[edit] Pedagogy - a N American view?
I'm interested to read the pedagogy section that has been added - and generally agree with its principles. However, I'm not convinced that it's in the right place. I suspect that the pedagogy might refer to the principles of the movement in North America, or perhaps Australia. It certainly doesn't align with those of Middle Schools in England. For a start, ours cover quite a different age range (limited to being ages 8-13, rather than 10-15); likewise, other features of that section like the mention of "authentic assessment" are very US-centric. Never heard of it in the UK. (But then, I think our assessment was always more authentic than the US anyway) Tafkam 10:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- The thinking behind this is that the article might be structured in two parts: the first as an explanation of the theory of middle schooling, and secondly, how middle schools are done around the world.
- The first part would be split between the two pedagogies: a mere 'business as usual' 'bricks and mortar' version, and the 'Middle School as a pedagogy'. This latter pedagogy can't be North American if it also appears in Australia.
- The second part would be divided into continents, or simply alphabetically. This would give how the different pedagogies play out in different countries I guess we are are part of a longer project, that will need contributions from different countries (eg Europe is just former Yugoslavia and Britain, so far!)
- I've got some what contributors might consider offering material which I'll be offering in about a week, but today was to make a start.Adrian Glamorgan 11:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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- I can see your thinking, but might this article not become a little unwieldy? Perhaps what is needed is a more general overview, including the sort of addition you've made, and the for the relevant national sections to be incorporated into the Education by country articles? Tafkam 17:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Middle school vs. Junior high school
Is the term junior high school still common as it was 10 years ago?? Georgia guy 21:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- As the article states, the terms have become less synonymous over time, but that isn't because one has necessarily supplanted the other. Both terms seem to be in common use, it's just that they increasingly mean something different and specific. Whether there are more middle schools and less junior high schools than there were ten years ago -- which would affect how common the terms were used, I suppose -- may be countable, but there are too many factors to consider here. Some schools have gone from a Junior High School model to a Middle School model; some have gone the other way; changes in population and other factors continue to cause restructuring in many districts. Jfarber 18:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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- And of course, all of that is from an entirely US-centric model - we never had the 'Junior High' label here in the UK Tafkam 20:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
