Talk:Mike Patton
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I talked to Mike Patton after a performance at Hedgepeth for the Peeping Tom. He told me not to read Wikipedia and that the urinating on photographers comment is false.
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- "Patton regularly did flips while singing on stage. He often landed painfully on his back, but would get right up and continue singing without interuption." First of all, thats not how you spell 'interruption', and second of all, he obviously doesn't land too "painfully" on his back if he manages to get right up, don't you think?
I think this should be changed : "Sinatra-esque tenors and even death metal style grunts and screeches"
Because Sinatra was not a tenor, and Mike isnt a tenor either.
Crooning. Done and done. Gatesofawesome!
Photos:
What in god's name is with all of these photo changes? It seems every week I come here a new image has been uploaded of Patton.
From IMDB: "Patton is a twentieth generation Native American."
Does anyone have any sources for this statement?
Good job breaking up the continuity of my contributions to the article. I had a nice band/album history going on. Why do people care so much about this nonsense:
Patton was known for bizarre stage antics and commentary. He was known to occasionally douse himself in urine, and gained notoriety for flopping around like the fish during an MTV Video Music Awards appearance. Patton also was referred to by bandmates as a "shit terrorist" as he coped with the pressures and demands of fame by terrorizing hotel rooms while on tour with his fecal matter, hiding it in air vents or blow dryers for the unlucky to find. "That was just my way of deflecting a lot of that attention, by throwing it back in peoples’ faces in sort of a grotesque light," Patton explained. "Sometimes it didn’t work, it just made things worse, but nonetheless that was my way and it got me through what I needed to get through."
Mike Patton has done some musically interesting things. Unfortunately, his "stage antics" sure seem to have earned him a lot of incredibly stupid fans.
Will anyone shoot me if I move this to some other part of the article? 'Specially since it's so completely out of place where it is.
Patton says:
"People would rather just make my music a personality issue," Patton grouches, "which to me is a real bore. Give it a f---ing rest! It's a common thing for people to pull, you know, 'the psycho card', but it really just makes me want to take a nap."
-Roivas
It is disputed (by Patton and others) that any of the scat stuff actually took place. He often cites boredom as a motivation for these claims of scatness. I will look at rewriting this as a self professed patton expert (oh i also updated the Trey Spruance page) - kenscanna
Well, I moved it. Why would someone insert that between two paragraphs about Patton's recording history? Roivas 19:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Patton on Roots
Heya,
Patton did additional vocals on Ratamahatta, Korn's Johnathan Davies did Lookaway.
Greets,
-Maverick Hunter Styx 11:19, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- Wrong. Carlinhos Brown does the additional vocals on Rata, as well as composing and performing percussion on that and two other tracks. Patton does indeed appear on Lookaway, along with Davis. Davis shares the less 'technical' whispery stuff with Patton, and Patton outstrips him with the throat and other assorted signature vocals. ◄ИΞШSΜΛЯΞ► 01:11, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] BLP/defamation
Under Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy, I'm removing all the references to bodily excretions incidents. If any of these were reported in reliable sources they may be cited as claims, e.g. "In 1994, Rolling Stone reported that ..." but potentially defamatory material is not permitted in Wikipedia. --Dhartung | Talk 19:53, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- Urgh! Ok let me clear this up (no pun intended), Mike Patton during the period of touring promoting the albums The Real Thing and Angel Dust with the band Faith no More made MANY references to bodily excretions. Some examples are in the 1992 Melody Maker article (interview) in which Patton stated he had "shat in Jim Martins's (guitarist) orange juice and watched him drink it", also a more obvious example would be found on Faith No More's Video Croissant release in which Patton is shown pouring a bottle of urine over his head in Spain (i think), in between this Roddy BOttum (Keybopard player) talks the viewer through the incident. The following citation is taken from Select Magazine August 1993
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- " The role of Shit Terrorist that Patton has maximised since the release of the 'Angel Dust' album 12 months ago, is perhaps beginning to feel uncomfortable. The singer's inglorious antics during this period have been well documented: urinating in his own boot onstage and drinking it down before a capacity crowd; crapping in hotel hairdryers; polluting beverages backstage with his own excrement; acquiring all manner of contraband pornography. In fact the singer -- who said "a shit-eating video is so much cooler than watching two people kissing" last time I interviewed him -- is now travelling with what might comfortably be deemed an affectionate female friend." (Mary Anne Hobbs)
- she also goes to mention
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- " It's difficult to ascertain whether the Shit Terrorist is a strap-on character, like Bono's MacPhisto, how much Patton could peel away, even if he wanted to, and whether he is actually proud of this image. Most critics, when faced with his litany of repellant hobbies, have tried to understand rather than chastise him. Patton might indeed have inspired the press intrigue that he wanted over the last 12 months, but at what price? There has been a fundamental change in the singer's appearance. His hair, which is usually fashioned after something you might fish out of a plughole, is freshly trimmed. His clothing is neat; conservative even. And the steel sleeper once hooked through his pierced eyebrow is gone. Has Patton already begun to scrub away the Shit Terrorist's stains? And if so, how much of FNM, by association, will go with it" (Mary Anne Hobbs)
- This article can be found in full online here ----> http://www.negele.org/db/index.php3?&id=932
- THIS HOWEVER IS FROM THE HORSES MOUTH!! taken from an interview with Mike Patton on the aforementioned Angel Dust tour!
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- "What's the most rock n' roll thing you've ever done? 'Jesus Christ! That's a bad question! Um ... When I was staying in a hotel room once, I took a shit, rolled it into a ball and put it in the hair dryer so that the next guest to dry their hair would get hot shit in their face. Ain't that rock n' roll? I do hope rock stars are a dying breed. People love to lap them up -- you know how something always tastes better if you swallow it quickly.'" (Amy Raphael)
- The link to this article is here ----> http://www.negele.org/db/index.php3?&id=1275
- Now, later in his career, Patton has made claims that he used to make up all these stories because of interview boredom. It is hard to deny however that the urine thing mentioned above was ficticious. Mike Patton IS famous for talking about bodily excretion ... please put the article back as it was and stop tryingto control every thing!
- Kenscanna 16:11 24/09/06
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- Kensacanna, that is helpful. These references should be integrated into the article in a proper encyclopedic tone. Now, you must realize that in the real world there are libel and defamation laws. As a publisher Wikipedia cannot be in the position of publishing unverified and unattributed negative information; it could expose Wikipedia to a lawsuit and, in a worst case scenario, closure of the project. This is why there is a biographies of living persons policy. The message you left on my talk page asserting that references were provided for "your [my] benefit" could not be further from the truth. The references are provided for the benefit of the editor who made them, the reader who reads them, and the Wikipedia project generally. We're not Geocities, open to anyone to write anything about a musician they want to; we're an encyclopedia. We have a responsibility to provide the most relevant and least gossipy profile of a person possible. If you can't understand why this is important, I suggest you find another hobby. For further comprehension of the dimensions of the problem, see John Seigenthaler Sr. Wikipedia biography controversy.
- But the article cannot be "put back as it was". That would violate Wikipedia policy and any editor is authorized to immediately delete material per the BLP policy. See the box at the top of this Talk page. --Dhartung | Talk 19:10, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I had heard that one of the reasons that bugle broke up was because of a fight between patton and spruance. I however have no actual proof for this. Does anyone have an article or something so this can be mentiond at least as a posibibly.
[edit] The "Early years" section
the page says:
Growing up in Eureka, California, at the age of 9 he joined the punk band Middle Class and appeared on their seminal 1978 e.p. Out of Vogue, which is deemed by many to be the first hardcore record. After the group dissolved Patton and friends formed Mr. Bungle circa 1985.
but is this true? mike patton is not described as the same mike patton on the page for the band "middle class" (which, by the way, appears as a dead link in the page; the band's wiki page has to be found with the redirect option at the top of the "middle class" wiki to the "middle class (band)" wiki). that wiki says its the mike patton who produced the first album by The Adolescents. the page for that album doesnt mention that producer being the same mike patton as this one: The Adolescents (album page)
is this an error? is it really the same mike patton?
160.39.208.20 23:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
NO! This is not the same Mike Patton, Patton was in a few earlier incarnations of Mr Bungle in high school, one was called 'Turd', but he was never in Middle Class. [Kenscanna]]
[edit] External Links
Hi,
First of all, I want to say "sorry" for editing the External Links section without asking you about it, sorry once again. But I really think, that the site PattonFans.net should be linked. It's a great resource for Mike Patton fans, and, also, it soon comes with English version. I'm not an author, but before posting links here, I wrote mail to admin, and asked about the site. He told me, that works for English version are very close to the end. So once again, I think that link should appear. Thanks for reading and sorry for possible language mistakes:)
--Spec0071 01:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
