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-- Szvest - ^{Wiki me up ®} 12:34, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moroccan history articles

Hi, I have recently contributed some articles on Morocco tho' not a participant of WP:MAROC, namely Aghmat, Bou Hamara, El Hiba and rewrite of T'hami El Glaoui. I'm not a Moroccan (or French or Spanish) so I hope they meet with approval from those "sur le champs" ... anyway, I have noticed that there are 2 articles on same subject but different names: Bargawata and Berghouata. What to do? First has less detail but is more accurate, second has more detail but factual errors. Also neither title is a good English transliteration, should be Barghawata I think. I am willing to do the work to merge if you give advice about what would be best. MisterCDE 03:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi and welcome MisterCDE. Thanks for the message. I appreciate your work. I agree that Barghawata is the most accurate name (see map here). I therefore merged the 2 articles and moved Berghouata to Barghawata. Have a look at it and fix things you think they should be fixed. You've done great work indeed for the rest of the articles mentioned above. I've copy edited Aghmat and will have a look at the rest later on. Do not hesitate to contact me if you need any help or if you are willing to edit more articles. See you around. Cheers. -- Szvest - ^{Wiki me up ®} 13:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments FayssalF. I made some small addition to Barghawata, also fixed a factual error I made on Aghmat page. I will do what I can to add/change more articles, even thought of tackling Marrakech problem, but altho' I have visited Morocco on occasions my specialty is really Middle Ages so I don't feel particularly qualified on current events, geography etc. Best wishes, MisterCDE 04:05, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate your efforts as well. I believe History of Morocco needs a lot of work. I just can't find the appropriate time to deal w/ it. -- Szvest - ^{Wiki me up ®} 18:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello again ... I notice you have had some hand in the page on Uqba ibn Nafi. Is it appropriate to have half the page given over to Gibbon's account, which is riddled with Gibbon's own POV and which is fairly out-of-date? See my update to Umayyad conquest of North Africa where I added a section on the problems associated with this period of history (unfortunately my session timed out so it got added under my IP address instead of username). Best wishes, MisterCDE 04:20, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I added another historical account to have a balance. Please check. -- Szvest - ^{Wiki me up ®} 12:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... its an improvement, but I wouldn't use Ibn Idhari myself, the Tunisian historian H. R. Idris has shown that for the conquest of the Maghreb he just copied directly or indirectly from ar-Raqiq or al-Maliki a couple of centuries before. Also, you've linked Ibn Idhari to someone else with the same nisba? The problem with Gibbon is that he wrote in the 18th century so his sources are poor ("the grateful Akbah unlocked his fetters" is incorrect to my knowledge, according to most versions Abu al-Muhadjir decided to die wearing his chains), also he is notorious for writing everything with a very cynical and sarcastic POV (although fun to read) (not just my POV, its general - refer article Edward Gibbon). I think he is used in Wikipedia only because he is out of copyright rather than his quality, I'd discourage that. I might do something with Uqba myself sometime, but not right now. Best wishes. MisterCDE 01:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Morocco WikiProject

Wikipedia:WikiProject Morocco -- Szvest - ^{Wiki me up ®} 18:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)