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[edit] Iron Workers

Anyone know anything about the Ironworking tradition of the Mohawks?

They (we), work all over Canada and the U.S. Do research into unionised construction or famous architechural landmarks across north america.

the language of the mohawks is alive and always has been alive. today, the young people have taken it upon themselves to learn and teach the language where our elders have failed to do so.

It is taught now at home and in the schools, beginning with a childs preschool years. no, it is not dead or extinct nor was it ever. more whitemans propaganda.

[edit] Removed

Can someone clarify the following sentence: One large group of Mohawks, who were expelled by the United States as traitors were given land by the British Governor Craig and imposed to French speaking Quebecois who were refused new land because of not being English.? I would do it, but I don't understand what it's trying to say. What does "imposed to" mean? — Pburka 1 July 2005 02:31 (UTC)

I have removed the latter half of this sentence as it makes no sense. Morgan Leigh 03:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

This sentence, even in revised form, seems to indicate that the Mohawks of Kanesatake, Kahnawake, etc. only arrived after the British conquest. But the article on [Kateri] (beatified 17th C catholic Mohawk) says that she lived in Kahnawake in the 1680's. I always thought Kahnawake was the result of Jesuit proselytising in the Mohawk valley. So the Craig reference seems very wrong - I am removing it for the moment - besides being couched in racist terms ("British Governor Craig," "imposed to Francophone Quebecois" etc.), clearly a holdover from racial tensions in 1990 over the Jacques Cartier Bridge blockade. Jackmitchell

[edit] Mohawk warrior society flag

The flag that was briefly at the top of this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mohawk-flag.jpg / http://crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ca_mohak.html) is representative of the Mohawk warrior society, and not the Mohawk community as a whole. The individual Haudenosaunee nations' flags are variants of the Haudenosaunee nation's flag: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hauflag.png . The St. Regis band council probably has its own flag as well. There is nothing wrong with putting the flag of the Warrior society in the article next to text about warrior societies, but considering there isn't even mention of Haudenosaunee warrior societies on wikipedia yet, I think that should wait - putting the warrior society flag on this article gives a very wrong impression.

Point taken; thanks for taking the time. El_C 11:24, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Congress of Vienna did not happen in 1837

"The Mohawk Nation, as part of the Iroquois Confederacy, were signatories to the treaties concluding the Congress of Vienna in 1837.". Congress of Vienna took place in 1814-15. I doubt whether any Native Americans were present in Vienna because the congress took no decisions on any American borders. This sentence needs changing anyway because the date is obviously wrong. I would suggest deleting it and rephrasing the next "five years later" setence. I suspect that if the Mohawks were present at any European treaty negociations it must have been the Treaty of Ghent of 1814 which ended the War of 1812. Great Britain tried to create an Idian buffor state and therefore could have included some Native Americans in its delegtion. However, I cannot find a cource confirming this, also. Friendly Neighbour 19:42, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I corrected the section as this "facts" are almost certainly not true, and the congress date is evidently wrong. Friendly Neighbour 06:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Nope. The Congress began in 1814-15, but its endless meetings took place for years and its final documents were signed in 1837, when among other things the title of Holy Roman Emperor was done away with and the title of Austrian Emperor endorsed as a sop to retain the dynastic dignity of the former holders of the HRE title, the Habsburgs (by said document; they'd created the title themselves in 1804 but it was not recognized as such, formally, until the closing of the CoV) and various German duchies were elevated to kingdoms, or merged into larger units. The Congress functioned something like the League of Nations, though less formally so, from 1815-1837; but 1837 was definitely the final year of the Congress, and its summation (according to A.J.P. Taylor anyway, as well as Colin McEvedy).Skookum1 23:03, 17 June 2006 (UTC) By the way where I first heard this was during colour-commentary to the Oka Crisis....

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[edit] Mohawk Contributions To Modern Society

Can someone inform me if people belonging to the Mohawk nation were employed as construction workers on tall buildings? I have heard a story that they were chosen for this task because they possessed the ability to work at great heights without vertigo or acrophobia being an issue. If someone can veryify this and add a piece to this effect to the article, this may be welcome. Perhaps if there are members of the Mohawk nation themselves who could verify this (possibly even some of those putative former construction workers?) then this would add considerable weight to what I have heard. Calilasseia 21:59, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

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