Talk:Mount Rainier National Park

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Contents 1 National Historic Landmark protection 2 This photo is of a peak just east of Chinook Pass. 3 Road repair deadline 4 Speed Ascent Records 5 elevation

[edit] National Historic Landmark protection

I removed a line about the NHL designation protecting plants and animals. The natural elements of Mt. Rainier are already protected by merits of it being in a National Park. For that matter, I think the "parkitecture" (and landscape parkitecture) is also already protected as historic structures/landscapes. My guess is that the NHL designation (in this case) is really more about recognition rather than protection. At the very least, I am pretty sure the NHL status does not impact the preservation of wild natural resources. — Eoghanacht ^talk 15:28, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

• I thought the NHL status was only for the Inn (the main lodge) at Paradise? SchmuckyTheCat 23:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
• The park is also rich in cultural resources and was designated a National Historic Landmark District as an outstanding example of early park planning and NPS rustic architecture. [[1]] --Walter Siegmund (talk) 03:36, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] This photo is of a peak just east of Chinook Pass.

Chinook Pass is on the east border of Mount Rainier National Park, therefore any peek described as just east of Chinook Pass would be outside the national park (see Green Trails Maps, Mount Rainier East, WA- NO 270, 1:50,500, 2001 and Stanley Maps, Mt. Rainier National Park - Centennial Edition SM50099, 1:30,000, 2002, ISBN 0966220943). Patleahy 04:04, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the border at Chinook Pass runs east-west, with the pass going north and south. That could be Naches Peak, which is on the park border. --Carnildo 04:17, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Naches Peak is south east of Chinook Pass, not just east. Since the peek is unnamed in the article we don't know what it its and therefore it does not add anything to the article. Patleahy 04:23, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I corrected the location of the peak in Image:Fieldscape.jpg; it is Point 6271' from Washington Route 410 east of Chinook Pass looking south.[2] It is located in William O. Douglas Wilderness. I've added it to that article (which was previously not illustrated) and removed it from this article. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 22:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Road repair deadline

I've been hearing that there is a deadline as to when the roads in Mount Rainier, particularly in the areas flooded out from the recent storm, must be fully finished. I was told that mid-March would be the deadline given that some species of owl's nesting season begins around this time, and maintenance crews want to protect this supposedly endangered species. If roads aren't fully fixed by this time, then they push the repairs out to August. JustN5:12 23:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Reconstruction of the Carbon River road to Ipsut Creek campground is suspended from March 15 to August 6 to protect the Northern Spotted Owl, Marbled Murrelet, and Bull Trout. It's probably the least important road in the park, so there's no great problem there. --Carnildo 00:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speed Ascent Records

I'm adding a {{fact}} tag to the paragraph about the speed ascent records because there appears to be some disagreement about the facts and there are no supporting citations.

Regardless of what the facts are, I think the paragraph about the speed ascent records should be moved to Mount Rainier as it is about the mountain and not the national park. Any thoughts?

-- Patleahy 23:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd agree. Thanks.

I'm also putting a citation for the current official record. The other record-claim the user tried to get in there while deleting the original material are just that, claims, and not official. Jim Whittaker's (who also was the first US citizen to summit Everest in 1959) and Howitt's are truly official and the only of their kind. It speaks for itself.

I can add a start and summit photo taken by his timing officials on Rainier, how do I add a photo?

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I did further research and see there are a few people who obsessively search his name on the Internet and subject the issue and official record holder to tabloid abuse and malice, many chat sites and unfortunatly here. Readers have it they are friends of the unofficial record holder and are scrambling hard to protect him against an impressive complaint that undermined even his unofficial claim, it was shown quite fradulent as judged also by author of "Speed Climbing" Bill Wright [[3]] [email removed]

-- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jane.freeser (talk • contribs) 03:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

I moved the paragraph to Mount Rainier#Ascent records. -- Patleahy 19:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I answered the question about citing an image at User talk:Jane.freeser#Citing an image. -- Patleahy 20:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] elevation

i changed the elevation for reasons described in Talk:Mount Rainier. if you disagree, i propose we discuss it there, rather than here. --barneca (talk) 21:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)