Talk:Naminé

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Contents 1 Seriously 2 Should she be listed under...(SPOILERS!) 3 Zero references 4 Casts

[edit] Seriously

Stop changing the format, the Biography header and spoiler tags are necessary and required (in some cases both). This is the correct formatting and should not be changed. We are outlining the biography of the character, Namine, thus the title of that section of the article being titled Biography, simple logic, no? Also, considering the nature of her creation and other relevance to the main storyline of Kingdom Hearts 2, it is also necessary that we add spoiler warnings. Though people on wiki who haven't played the game shouldn't be catered to, in terms of spoiler information, they do have the right to know when they are about to read information that might spoil the story of the game if they didn't plan on, y'know, spoiling the game, thus the position of the spoiler tags.

This is not to be argued, debated, nor edited. If you have a problem with it discuss it here, and in the off chance you find a "better" solution, or a somewhat compelling "argument" as to why the header and tags are unnecessary, I'd be happy to here it. But as long as I've got this article on my watchlist, it will remain this way until sufficient evidence proves otherwise.

Please, don't ruin a good thing; concentrate on adding to the article not dumbing it down.
Watemon 04:50, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Zero1328:Technically, I wasn't leaving messages in the article, considering they don't show up. In fact, that's almost exactly what that feature is used for. No need to get prissy over it just because you're pissed. Anyway, I started this topic a little while back, so had you actually gone here first, instead of editing stuff without discussing it, we wouldn't be having this little "issue".
Watemon 06:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, technically you are leaving messages in the article, but hidden. Making huge messages like that in the article is excessive, and if you thought I wasn't reading the talk page you should've told me in the edit summary or on my own talk page. I'm pretty sure I'm not getting prissy over it, but try to remember to comment on content and not the person.. that's close to a personal attack again. - Zero1328 _Talk? 07:39, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

The messages were not in the article, the article is what is visible from the main page, what you were reading was the literal code itself. Considering people weren't bothering to read the talk page, I left my messages within the code and invisible from the article instead. The purpose of that code is exactly to leave messages, either explanations for article changes or otherwise. Why else do you think there's a feature that allows people to leave notes in the code that aren't visible in the article? You'll just have to get over that.
Anyway, it's standard procedure to read the talk page, so I shouldn't have had to tell you anything; I'm not your baby sitter and am thus not responsible for reminding you to how to take care of your business. And I don't care for personal attacks or anything, instead of trying to change shit without discussing it, you should've come here first and started a topic over it, and considering you did neither, you're not really in the position to be complaining about anyone's behavior. I find it quite troublesome and even more frustrating when people take it upon themselves to "contribute" mass edits to an article before telling anyone or discussing it, especially when there was nothing to change or when there was nothing wrong. Your behavior in this respect to changing this article is much more disruptive and counter productive to the efficiency of this article than my remarks to you (also considering you could simply ignore them). But as I said, seeing as I'm only trying to run this article efficiently, you're not really in the position to complain about anything, considering you broke procedure.
Watemon 09:33, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Watemon, don't forget that any user can contribute to any article in any way, within Wikipedia policy, without discussing it first with those on the talk page. And watch your language, too - profanaties are not beneficial. By the first sentence of this message, I am referring to your statement, " I find it quite troublesome and even more frustrating when people take it upon themselves to "contribute" mass edits to an article before telling anyone or discussing it". It's called being bold. Daniel.Bryant 09:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

The "being bold" statement does not refer to changing articles without notifying others. It says it's okay to change articles and not to feel shy about doing it:
"New users in particular are often entranced by the openness of Wikipedia and dive right in. That's a good thing. But please note: 'be bold in updating pages' does not mean that you should make large changes or deletions to long articles..."
Notice how it doesn't describe being bold as "making edits without discussing it first". Further more:
"Wikis develop faster when people fix problems, correct grammar, add facts, make sure the language is precise, and so on. We expect everyone to be bold: it's okay. Boldness is expected. How many times have you read something and thought, 'Why aren't these pages copy-edited?' Wikipedia not only allows you to add, revise, and edit the article — it wants you to do it."
None of the actions taken fit under the necessity for these user's to "be bold" as you defined (though incorrectly). Neither users found it "necessary" to discuss their proposed edits with anyone before hand, or even make a talk page article over it before taking action. Had they done so prior, I wouldn't be so... up–front about it (to put it lightly). Either way, whether or not a user is "being bold", they must discuss their edits first. Going in an article and changing stuff that doesn't need to be changed is not beneficial to this article.
Watemon 02:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

It mostly depends on what's being changed. The Guideline even states it too. It's recommended to supply a reason with the edit if the edit may be considered controversial and someone may object to it. It's all in the "...but don't be reckless!" section. I didn't consider it to be very major or controversial but you seem to have a problem about it. - Zero1328 _Talk? 06:55, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

"Agreeing with the edit" is not a valid reason for a editing the article.
Watemon 23:29, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Should she be listed under...(SPOILERS!)

fictional doppelgängers? Or would this be too much of a spoiler?

haha, sarcasm

It would seem rather fishy to me. We'd have to do that to Organization XIII too, and besides, they're not officially described as doppelgängers, but as a special species/race/whatever you'll call it in the game's universe.—ウルタプ 15:21, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

..okay, I just read the second section of the doppelgänger article. It's really very eerie how similar Naminé's actions are.—ウルタプ 15:29, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zero references

Even if it is from an official site promo profile or something, we need at least one source to verify this article. Hence the tag at the top. Daniel.Bryant 08:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Casts

Namin'e was actuly voiced by jesse mcartney. don't worry i verified this with the credits in kingdom hearts 2.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Keyblade Master Natu (talk • contribs).

...right. Um, I haven't seen the actually credit roll myself, but it's either a typo or you weren't lining up the text in your mind correctly...—ウルタプ 01:55, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Not so much. I can verify that she did indeed voice Naminé. DarthCat 03:19, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Isn't Jesse Mcartney the guy who plays Roxas. I think you just read one line up.69.117.57.73 20:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Jesse McCartney is a male actor who voices Roxas, a male character. Brittany Snow is the female actress who plays Namine.
Watemon 08:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)