Talk:Nikumaroro
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Twenty-nine islanders were settled there - from where? User:Zoe|(talk) 19:26, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
- These were copra workers recruited from sundry Polynesian islands. Arundel had operations on many central Pacific islands during this period. Wyss 22:09, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
I took out this sentence: Guano deposits weren't found and the US claim was given up in 1882. It needs citation.
[edit] Gardiners_Island Gardiners_Bay Gardner_Island Nikumaroro
Gardiners_Island Gardiners_Bay Gardner_Island Nikumaroro
Hopiakuta 00:51, 12 September 2006 (UTC) Gardner_Pinnacles
Hopiakuta 01:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] AP story
Amelia Earhart standed on Nikumaroro? http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/01/earhart.mystery.ap/index.html 24.199.153.73 12:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The claim that there is documented evidence of Earhart and Noonan crash-landing on Gardner Island
It is merely a claim and as stated, there is no collaborated evidence to back it up so it is therefore only a theory and should be considered just that. Bzuk 11:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC).
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- Collaborated? You more likely meant corroborated. Speaking of word usage, evidence can support a hypothesis but not prove it. The Gardner island hypothesis is supported by much confirmed documentation and evidence, but has not been proven. Gwen Gale 11:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I should also say that the Gardner island hypothesis does not specify a crash landing, but a more or less successful landing on the reef flat. Gwen Gale 11:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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- I agree, it is a hypothesis that is not supported by corroborated scientific analysis at this point and does not rise to the level of a theory. We are both expressing the same views, merely semantics is the issue. Bzuk 12:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC).
- Glad to hear we seem to agree. However, I must say, the hypothesis is indeed supported by scientific analysis but this support has not yet resulted in what a consensus of professional historians would characterize as proof. Moreover, the term theory simply doesn't apply here: This is neither a scientific model meant to explain a naturalistic process, nor popular speculation. Gwen Gale 12:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, it is a hypothesis that is not supported by corroborated scientific analysis at this point and does not rise to the level of a theory. We are both expressing the same views, merely semantics is the issue. Bzuk 12:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC).
PS: Thanks for correcting the date in the reference, my botch, meant to fix it but got distracted. Gwen Gale 12:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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- No "seem"– we agree here. My contention is that it is an interesting, even fascinating hypothesis and that it would be amazing if there would eventually be evidence to support the claims of Earhart and Noonan surviving, albeit even for a brief period, following the harrowing end to their World Flight attempt. Bzuk 12:35, 4 April 2007 (UTC).
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- We don't know (opinions about likelihoods are another tale), but there is some evidence that, if they did land on Gardner, Noonan may have died of injuries within days or weeks while Earhart may have survived much longer. There is even an open possibility she was still alive when a survey party from New Zealand arrived there in 1938 (ironically, to check into whether or not the island was suitable for a landing strip). Nikumaroro is bigger than it looks: A few members of the New Zealand team almost got into deep trouble trying to walk around the atoll. By the time they passed near where the skeleton of a white, northern European female was later found, they were struggling with thirst and fatigue. She may have been alive when they staggered by the "castaway's" campsite (this is a stretch to utter speculation though, harrowing nevertheless). Gwen Gale 12:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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- No "seem"– we agree here. My contention is that it is an interesting, even fascinating hypothesis and that it would be amazing if there would eventually be evidence to support the claims of Earhart and Noonan surviving, albeit even for a brief period, following the harrowing end to their World Flight attempt. Bzuk 12:35, 4 April 2007 (UTC).
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