Talk:Nontransitive dice
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[edit] Efron's dice redirection
This page previously redirected to Efron's dice. I have changed this, because the redirection target was only one particular case of dice intransitivity, and the subject warrants more discussion than just Efron's. ~ Booyabazooka 06:59, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge proposal
I'm not sure why we need seperate pages for these. Are there any other examples of non-transitive dice? And as Booyabazooka's most recent edit suggests, this page is mostly just duplicated/redundant info from Efron's dice, yes? Ewlyahoocom 22:52, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- I've eliminated most of the overlap. The Efron's dice article is decently-sized already, and I think Nontransitive dice has potential to be longer. I'm not sure if there are any other well-known examples, but clearly there are infinite possibilities; so in addition to the specific examples, there is also room for more abstract mathematical discussion. So, I don't see any pressing reason to merge theses. ~ Booyabazooka 23:37, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
- We can certainly talk about splitting the page up, even creating a category, if and when anyone ever bothers to document another one and we find the combined page getting to be "too big". But until such a time I think there's plenty of room on this page for the one other example of non-transitive dice. Ewlyahoocom 05:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Best overall die
This section needs some citation. As Wikipedia is not the place for miscellaneous mathematical musings, I don't think it's fitting to include this detail unless Efron or some other notable mathematician discussed it. ~ Booya Bazooka 08:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. This is not a "miscellaneous musing" but rather a quite helpful thing to know about the dice. Whether or not Efron (or anyone else) discussed it is irrelevent. Mathematics is not based on authority - it's always been "open source". A citation is not needed, since details are shown, and the result has been proved by perhaps thousands of people in the course of time. It's actually a common homework assignment in probability courses. The section could, indeed, be shortened, since one calculation detail is probably sufficient. Cheers, Doctormatt 17:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] First Sentence
The first sentence is incomprehensible to everyone where I am...any suggestions for re-working? 76.1.192.45 03:47, 18 March 2007 (UTC)