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[edit] MOSBIO

See MOSBIO. " Ethnicity should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability.)

In Norah's case , this exception applies. Bharatveer 09:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

No, it definitely does not apply in her case. Norah's part-Indian ethnicity is not relevant to her notability. She rarely mentions her Indian ethnicity in interviews. This exception applies for people like Rosa Parks. Also, it is POV to only mention half of her ethnicity when she is mixed. --musicpvm 16:57, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree with musicpvm - her ethnicity has nothing to do with her career. Her relationship to Ravi does bear on her initial success, but that's not an ethnic connection: it's having a friend in the business.

While we're here, can someone explain in what way Norah is a "Yamaha artist"? (Note recent category addition.) - Corporal Tunnel 20:39, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure about that. The Yamaha Artist article states "Yamaha Artist refers to musical instrumentalists (or artists) who choose, officially, to play any of a large group of Yamaha musical instruments". I don't know if that is true in her case though. --musicpvm 03:48, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anglo-Indian - re: categories

I can not see any mention anywhere of Norah Jones having English or generally British ancestry, American ancestry in itself cannot even in the broader use of the term Anglo-Indian be considered to be equivalent. The term has always referred to those with usually English but sometimes more broadly British ancestry from families either who lived for a number of years in India and/or had ancestry from longstanding Indian groups. The Indian Government defines Anglo-Indian as being those of families that combined Indian and British ancestry and lived in India.--Lord of the Isles 15:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

I have added a place holder photo of Norah (her first CD's cover) to replace the one deleted on November 7th. The photo has been sourced from her own publicity site.

This photo is as low res as one can get, so would be good if someone could upload a decent, appropriately licensed photo ASAP.

Achitnis 13:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More updates

Unsure why the {{cleanup|February 2007}} tag is in place, since the article is in a pretty good shape.

Have broken up some lengthy sections with sub-headings, moved a few paragraphs around to make more logical sense.

Also replaced the photo with a higher resolution one (from the same source - Norah's publicity site) to address the "bulging cheek" problem :) that was probably the result of pixelation. She is round-faced, and she is cute - live with it. :)

Anything else that could be done to justify removing the {{cleanup|February 2007}} tag?

Achitnis 12:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Unless there is a clear shopping list of improvements needed for this article, I would like to remove the {{cleanup|February 2007}} tag. Achitnis 09:28, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Clearing {{cleanup|February 2007}} tag. If further improvements are needed, please put a note here in the talk page. Achitnis 07:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Here's something that should be cleaned up before the cleanup tag is removed: WTF is this? "before recording any official songs" -- WTF is an "official song"?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.174.43.36 (talk • contribs) 08:16, 22 February 2007.

It's called "wikipedia" because it is a wiki! :) If there was an obvious language issue, you could have fixed as well anyone else. IAC, have done so now, and even linked the term "recording artist" to the relevant article. :) Achitnis 12:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Collaberation

Norah Jones worked with Ryan Adams and the Cardinals on the song "Dear John" off of their September 2005 release "Jacksonville City Nights."

[edit] Replaced image

I have replaced the primary photo with another one, to allow the use of album images in the appropriate places in the article without duplication. Achitnis 13:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Added album art, linked each album with {{main|articlename}} and rearranged a few paragraphs for better logical flow. The touring section could do with more information. Achitnis 13:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Timing

The article states she attended "...the University of North Texas, where she majored in jazz piano, and won Best Student Music Awards for Best Jazz Vocalist (twice, in 1996 and 1997) and Best Original Composition (1996)." So, Norah, born March 30 1979 (as the article states), was in University in 1996, when she was 17? I don't know how school works in Texas, but when I was 17 (and I'm only two weeks older than Norah), I was still in high school. --Bentonia School 16:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

You are right. I did some research, and the real story was that she won these awards while at high school, not at the university. Am fixing the article and providing references. Thanks! Achitnis 10:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Encyclopedic?

Is the sentence "Since about that time she has been romantically involved with bassist Lee Alexander" encyclopedic? While it may or may not be true, should it feature in an encyclopedia article that also is a biography and hence should not really have such personal information in it. Nevermind all the broken fan hearts! :) Achitnis 10:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Derisive Remarks

Under the Trivia heading, someone put: She has been nicknamed "Snorah" to indicate the unbearably slow, lethargic nature of her wanna-be music.

I believe this should be edited to be more polite and assume a neutral point of view. anyone agree? I know she has been called "Snorah" but I think even that should have some kind of citation.

Pjohns 23:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Making derisive comments about a style of music just because the editor has no appreciation for it has no place in an article about an artist who performs in that particular style. Personal opinions and judgments should not be expressed in an encyclopedia article. And the "fact" is irrelevant in any case - boring artists don't make it to #1 on the charts - Norah did. Achitnis 04:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo (again)

Someone has deleted the photo "Norah Jones world tour Paris 2003.jpg". I can't find any reference in the deletion logs either on WP or in WP commons, but the end result is that we do not have a decent photo for the article's subject.

Can anyone help with a properly licensed, full-face picture (preferably not an album cover)?

Achitnis 05:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, so I just uploaded a picture that's CC-SA 2.0 that's from Flickr, but it's not very good or flattering. :( Someone should remedy the situation. -Rhorn 13:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! It's better than nothing at all :) And it isn't really bad. Maybe one could crop it a bit to isolate only her, that would enlarge her image a bit. Achitnis 17:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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