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General statistics posted by myself come from the book ONI 222-US, United States Naval Vessels, published by The Floating Drydock, Kresgeville, PA 18333. Joshua 03:19, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] First of the Fast Battleships?

I think you will find that the Royal Navies Queen Elizabeth class battleships of 1914 claim that particular honour - and if they don't then HMS Hood most certainly does, and if you won't accept that then there are the King George V class battleships and the Japanese Kongo's to consider... Suffice it to say that the North Carolinas were only the first American fast battleships, and I have altered the article to reflect that. Also, couldn't the Dreyer fire control tables used by the Royal Navy in all their Dreadnoughts throughout the First World War, justifiably claim to have been computers at sea long before the North Carolinas were even laid down? Getztashida 02:06, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, you bring up good points, and I think that the article was written from a biased American perspective. While I disagree that the Queen Elizabeths were the first fast battleships (realistically only capable of 23-24 knots), or HMS Hood and the Kongos (battlecruisers, with relatively light armor), the King George V class predates the North Carolinas and they were undeniably fast battleships. There are way too many contenders to allow the statement to go without the qualifier you added.

As for the first computer, that statement could probably use additional clarification and qualification. It is my understanding that the great accomplishment of the American Mark 1 Fire Control Computer was its ability to actually perform differential calculus, where previous fire control computers merely made estimates.

I've had the privilege of getting to examine and play with an actual American Mark 1 computer, and it was incredibly interesting; I'm a computer scientist, and it's fascinating to me that they were able to build such a powerful mechanical computer. TomTheHand 03:40, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

There is a fascinating (and highly technical) article on the Dreyer Fire control table at www.dreadnoughtproject.org and they are undeniably mechanical computers... I shall once again adjust to the article to reflect the fact that the ships carried the most advanced gunnery computers afloat, rather than the first... Getztashida 20:31, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] First of the Fast Battleships?

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