Talk:Pacal the Great
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[edit] Pacal Votan
I have heard of a Mayan sage-king by the name Pacal Votan of Palenque. Apparently, he is one in the same as Pacal the Great. Is this true? I think this deserves some looking into.—This unsigned comment is by 199.79.112.254 (talk • contribs) 16 March 2006.
- No, definitely not. "Pacal Votan" is a figment, conjured from the rather overactive imagination of the esotericist and New Age-fantasist author Jose Arguelles, who has written much (but, it seems, learned little) on aspects of mysticism and the Maya. "Pacal Votan" is Arguelles' name for some mystical prophet-like figure he supposes that he has identified, and who he indeed does conflate with the historical Pacal 'the Great' figure; but as with the rest of his ideas he has taken some details from Maya scholarship and blended them with a larger body of cosmological and mystical speculation of his own creation. His views are decidedly beyond the fringes of mainstream studies, and his conception of Pacal Votan bears no relation to the historical ruler of Palenque, Pacal.--cjllw | TALK 04:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
