Talk:Parvenu
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Honestly, I've only really heard widespread usage of "Nouveau Riche". If anything, shouldn't "Parvenu" be merged into that?--80.47.43.207 20:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed. If "parvenu" is a notable concept in its own right, the two should remain separate, but nouveau riche is a much more widely known term and clearly deserves its own article. CameoAppearance orate 13:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
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- I concur. The term nouveau riche is especially prominent in literature (across several languages), whilst the term parvenu is more limited to specific social circles. As a matter of fact, (no source here, but from experience) nouveau riche is sooner used in French than parvenu (despite both terms coming from the French language). I expect this to be simply because nouveau riche, meaning new rich (or rather, emergent/new wealthy person) is easier to place and understand in context than parvenu, even for French-speakers (parvenir is not a very common word anymore). Since literature has its bases in successful communication I find it little wonder that nouveau riche would be so widespread in the same. Keeping the two articles separate but with "See Also" links is the best choice IMO... Signed: El BelgaTM 05:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Concur with separation. NR is far more known (at least in the parts of the US I travel, I can't speak for the global audience) and it is a specific term (new to a particular class) while parvenu is a general term (new to any class). The two articles should be cross-referenced, as El Bega suggets. Slapshot24 08:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
